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Mar 29, 2019 23:18:00   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
Something many use w/o thinking about it twice.

I also use it but I have been thinking about it and instead of dodging and burning the regular way I use a empty layers and paint on it. Not only that, if I need a color cast in some area I use the same technique. This way I can revisit my work time and time again.

When I have an over exposed area I use a color similar to what should be there on a separate layer.

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Mar 30, 2019 00:06:09   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Yawn

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Mar 30, 2019 01:16:09   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
tdekany wrote:
Yawn


Not everybody knows PS like you do.

The tip is for those of us who are not PS experts but want to learn how to use PS for basic retouching.

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Mar 30, 2019 01:33:12   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Something many use w/o thinking about it twice.

I also use it but I have been thinking about it and instead of dodging and burning the regular way I use a empty layers and paint on it. Not only that, if I need a color cast in some area I use the same technique. This way I can revisit my work time and time again.

When I have an over exposed area I use a color similar to what should be there on a separate layer.


I learned Dodge and Burn from a tutorial on beauty retouching by Sarah Tucker. FYI - she is very experienced with Photoshop and she is a good teacher as well. She uses a layer mask in the way you describe: Create an adjustment mask; select the blending mode, invert the mask; paint back over selected areas using a soft brush at low opacity and low flow. The trick is lightly brushing and using multiple strokes to gradually build the effect. (She does it in a manner of seconds, yeah she makes it look easy. It is not easy it requires practice).

My bigger problem is remembering which is which. See attached. Yes i did develop film once upon a time, but it was long ago.


(Download)

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Mar 30, 2019 01:52:43   #
Bipod
 
tdekany wrote:
Yawn

Don't let this troll bother you, Rongnongno. He's got a screw loose.

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Mar 30, 2019 02:07:47   #
Bipod
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Something many use w/o thinking about it twice.

I also use it but I have been thinking about it and instead of dodging and burning the regular way I use a empty layers and paint on it. Not only that, if I need a color cast in some area I use the same technique. This way I can revisit my work time and time again.

When I have an over exposed area I use a color similar to what should be there on a separate layer.

This illustrates two general points:
1) When using complex applictions, there's usually more than one way to skin a cat.
2) Many concepts and terms based in film photography survive in digital photograpy,
but with added wrinkles, often dependent on the software package.

In dodging optical prints, the shape of wands and masks may have varied, but the technique
of using was pretty much the same. And it certainly didn't depend on the brand of enlarger.

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Mar 30, 2019 02:30:20   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
For this topic, you will probably get a lot more interested responses (and fewer yawns) in the Post-Processing Digital Images section.

Anyway, for me it depends on how involved the dodge/burn project is. If it's just a quick area or two, I usually don't bother setting up layers specifically for dodge/burn. If it's more complex, then I will use layers, as it is more practical to simply activate/deactivate individual layers and try out various combinations of dodge/burn edits rather than limiting oneself to do/undo.

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Mar 30, 2019 03:08:44   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
JD750 wrote:
Not everybody knows PS like you do.

The tip is for those of us who are not PS experts but want to learn how to use PS for basic retouching.


Have you ever seen any of his results? The only thing you can possibly learn from wrongy is how to blow highlights. Lol!

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Mar 30, 2019 03:09:15   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Bipod wrote:
Don't let this troll bother you, Rongnongno. He's got a screw loose.


Have you ever taken a photo in your life? The 2 of you should meet up. Larry and mo of the photography world.

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Mar 30, 2019 06:23:18   #
traderjohn Loc: New York City
 
It looks like some of the ladies have their panties in a bunch.

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Mar 30, 2019 06:28:38   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Something many use w/o thinking about it twice.

I also use it but I have been thinking about it and instead of dodging and burning the regular way I use a empty layers and paint on it. Not only that, if I need a color cast in some area I use the same technique. This way I can revisit my work time and time again.

When I have an over exposed area I use a color similar to what should be there on a separate layer.


Good tip.

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Mar 30, 2019 06:40:40   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
Yes, I do dodging and burning in a large proportion of my images but I do it in a separate layer. It is second nature for b&w conversions.

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Mar 30, 2019 06:51:43   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Rongnongno wrote:
Something many use w/o thinking about it twice.

I also use it but I have been thinking about it and instead of dodging and burning the regular way I use a empty layers and paint on it. Not only that, if I need a color cast in some area I use the same technique. This way I can revisit my work time and time again.

When I have an over exposed area I use a color similar to what should be there on a separate layer.


The dodge and burn tools in Photoshop work well for me. I use the opacity slider to get it right.

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Mar 30, 2019 07:35:20   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
tdekany wrote:
Yawn


Not interested, don't respond.

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Mar 30, 2019 07:50:13   #
Nikon1201
 
I will use the gradient filter in LR , and the adjustment brush is much more accurate than PS.

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