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Mar 24, 2019 18:01:45   #
dione961
 
abc1234 wrote:
Welcome to the glorious world of post-processing. I am delighted to read a post about post-processing and from someone who wants a good, direct picture. Knowing where you want to go is extremely important. You need to develop your own photographic sensibility so look at many, many pictures, even ones that are a century old. You will learn a lot.

You can simplify your workflow. Forget about the Nikon software and jpg's. Take your raw's directly into PSE. I disagree slightly with RG and I will get into that in my specific response to his post. Here is my workflow with LR. I file my raw's by date: Year>00 month year>shoot number for the month and subject. Once imported, I assign keywords immediately. These include location and subject such as person, object and event. No one likes doing this but it sure helps when you are looking for that needle in the haystack. Apply the right camera and lens profiles.

Unlike RG, I first straighten and take a preliminary crop. Then, I am back on track with RG.

PS Color balance should be inserted here. I use the XRite ColorChecker or ExpoDisc and then apply to all similar lighting situations.

1. Exposure, clarity, tonal range, contrast, dehaze and similar controls. Raw's are usually flat compared to SOOC jpg's so I first add clarity +30 and medium contrast tonal range. A bit of dehaze may also help. These are merely starting points. You must figure out what works best with your equipment and personal style. I also use my own presets but do not know if PSE has them.

2. This step involves local adjustments. My most often used tool is the radial filter then the linear gradient, adjustment brush and spot removal tool. These are the real power of LR and, I presume, PSE. Once you are comfortable with the global adjustments, learn these.

3. Straighten non-parallel lines.

4. Remove noise and sharpen. I do not do a lot here but just in case. My go-to sharpening tool is the shake reduction filter in PS. I do not know if PSE has it. I also like the high-pass filter.

5. Review the edits and redo as appropriate. Recrop, if necessary, to the final aspect ratio if printing. Do not otherwise resize.

6. I often apply a slight negative vignette, usually between -10 and -20, to make the subject stand out more.

7. If I am exporting, I usually increase the exposure by 2/3 of a stop since my jpg's are consistently a little dark. I export either to a folder called email which I use to send to friends or to the print folder.

I also assign stars to track my progress. 1, reject, and move to the reject folder under the shoot folder. 2, unused. 3, to be reviewed again later for processing or rejecting. 4, done. 5, either outstanding or for printing. You can set LR to advance automatically after setting a star.

Between RG and me, you should be off to the races. Be patient and post your pictures here for advice. Good luck and enjoy.
Welcome to the glorious world of post-processing. ... (show quote)


Hi & thanks for an awesome post - super generous of you to help. I hope it's OK, but I need to gather as much info as I can before I lose web access (see earlier post, this topic) & wondered whether you could explain the following, just so I can put the info into a guide to use as I progress:

1. Are XRite ColorChecker & ExpoDisc separate software to PSE - do I use them 1st, during or are they part of a PSE workflow?

2. When you say "apply to all similar lighting situations" do you mean I can set macros or presets in PSE to do the same task over many times?

3. How do you tell whether an image needs more clarity, tonal range, contrast or de-haze (what's the difference between them; eg, are de-haze & clarity the same thing?

4. In the pp context, is 'tonal range' the balance of colours in an image, or.......?

5. Is 'contrast' the balance between bright & shadow (or........) & how does contrast relate to colour saturation (if it does!!)?

6. What does a radial filter do?

7. What does linear gradient mean?

8. What does an adjustment brush adjust?

Boy, I sound like a 5 year old asking why? why? why? - sorry!! Whatever you have time to answer is totally fine - I get it that everyone has another life!! Thanks again, D.

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Mar 24, 2019 18:06:41   #
dione961
 
abc1234 wrote:
If you read my very long post, you will see I am in substantial agreement with RG who is one of the very best contributors here. He does mention two important things. The HSL panel is great for modifying colors. I refer to it as the poor man's polarizer because it does such a great job on skies. The other point is that once you get used to editing raw's you will hate doing jpg's. They have such less latitude because they have fewer data that the raw's. That is why I do not shoot them unless I am traveling and want to share immediately.

I tend to leave the saturation alone. I usually get what I want through clarity, dehaze, tonal range and contrast. You can go overboard very quickly with saturation. Vibrance tends to be gently and more natural. Some people may use saturation to adjust color balance but I do not.
If you read my very long post, you will see I am i... (show quote)


Hi & thanks for posting - so kind of you to help out! Can you explain a little what is vibrancy & how does it differ from the other adjustments you mentioned? Thanks, D.

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Mar 25, 2019 06:18:19   #
Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky
 
dione961 wrote:
Hi & thanks for posting - so kind of you to help out! Can you explain a little what is vibrancy & how does it differ from the other adjustments you mentioned? Thanks, D.


The Vibrancy smart-tool is a tool which increases the intensity of the more muted colors and leaves the already well-saturated colors alone. It's sort of like fill light, but for colors. The tool also prevents skin tones from becoming overly saturated and unnatural.

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Mar 25, 2019 06:24:12   #
Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky
 
Fstop12 wrote:
The Vibrancy smart-tool is a tool which increases the intensity of the more muted colors and leaves the already well-saturated colors alone. It's sort of like fill light, but for colors. The tool also prevents skin tones from becoming overly saturated and unnatural.


Here is a short 5 min video by Jesus Ramirez for the Photoshop Training Channel explaining the difference

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUCZ0PQ9OEs

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Mar 25, 2019 08:54:18   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
dione961 wrote:
Hi & thanks for posting - so kind of you to help out! Can you explain a little what is vibrancy & how does it differ from the other adjustments you mentioned? Thanks, D.


Fstop12 answered this nicely. Here is the important thing. You said that you are already getting good exposures. With raw's, as long as you are within one stop of the "perfect" exposure, your tweaking will be minor and that is good. That is why minor overall tweaks such as clarity, tonal range, dehaze and vibrance work so nicely and I do them before adjusting contrast and saturation. When you do adjust these two last parameters, then you will need less of them.

These adjustments make pictures look a little sharper so you need the sharpen adjustment less.

Now, go work on your 2,000 pictures and show us what you do so we can help you further.

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Mar 25, 2019 13:13:54   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
dione961 wrote:
......Could you elaborate on the difference between Sharpening & Clarity; what is "HSL" (is that a Lightroom thing?) & what is a "JPEG artefact"....


Thanks, and you're welcome. Sharpening works on edges by removing any softness they may have. It does that by increasing the contrast in the immediate vicinity of the edges. Over-sharpening can make a picture look gritty and it can exaggerate rough textures. Clarity also uses contrast in a selective way, but it affects areas as opposed to just edges. It affects contrast in the mid-tones more than in the brights and darks, and I'm not 100% sure but I think it is applied next to edges more so than areas which aren't close to edges, but it's not as localised as sharpening and is applied more diffusely. Too much Clarity can give a photo a harsh look and it can cause diffuse haloing around high contrast edges.

Sharpening increases vividness by emphasising edges and therefore shapes. It also enhances fine detail but unfortunately can't differentiate between fine detail and noise. Too much sharpening will aggravate noise. Clarity also increases vividness by increasing contrast in the mid-tones, but too much Clarity affects the brights and the darks too much, causing the harshness referred to already. Going left with the Clarity slider introduces a diffuse softness.

Most PP suites have a tool that allows adjustment of individual colours. In Lr and others it's referred to as the HSL tool (Hue, Saturation and Luminosity). The Hue slider allows you to tint-shift the selected colour. For example, green can be tint-shifted towards yellow (going left) or blue (going right).

Jpeg artefacts come in various forms, usually in the form of blockiness (noticeably square or rectangular shapes) in areas which should be smooth, or banding, again in areas which should be smooth and have continuous gradations of brightness and/or colour change. Sometimes areas that have been edited a lot just turn to mush because all fine detail has been lost. The more times an image is edited and saved as a jpeg, the more likely it is to suffer from artefacts. If you stick to editing raw files and saving in a lossless format (which doesn't include jpeg), artefacts shouldn't be a problem. Saving as jpeg is OK provided you don't intend to do any further editing.
Hope this helps.

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