A question of Kiev88 (Page 5): Cheap toy, but interesting. 2 f/stops, one shutter setting is a bit limiting. But with free shipping and no sales tax, and for just $29.99 how can you go...

GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City

Festina Lente wrote:

GoofyNewfie wrote:

rebride wrote:

How about a Holga?
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/369376-REG/Holga_144120_144_120_120N_Medium_Format.html

Cheap toy, but interesting.
2 f/stops, one shutter setting is a bit limiting.

But with free shipping and no sales tax, and for just $29.99 how can you go wrong? :shock: :shock:

I didn't say it wouldn't be fun!
If it breaks it just might be cheaper to replace than repair it. And I think I've seen that it's available in other colors.

;) ;)

imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida

Check out the Holga Pano version ! .....http://www.ebay.com/itm/261034338485?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

doogie Loc: Washington

Ok, Made my decision everyone!!!

After reading and re-reading the posts I contacted KEH. As they actually have humans that man phones and you can talk to. :) :) :) (yeah yeah call me old fashioned) The sales rep could have tried to talk me into the most expensive set-up, but did not. Instead he directed me towards what would be an excellent set up for a student. He did mention Hasselblad, and Mamiya, but in the end Bronica did win out. That and they weren't pushy like a lot of stores these days. That says something in my book.

I will be going with the Bronica ETRS. I'm going to buy two kits. Manual focus yes, but "learning to walk before I can fly here"

Thank you Thank you Thank you. To Everyone. both 35mm and Medium format are taken care of. You guys rock.

V/r,
Doogie

Festina Lente Loc: Florida & Missouri

imagemeister wrote:

Check out the Holga Pano version ! .....http://www.ebay.com/itm/261034338485?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Golly, I'm really sold now! :hunf:

Festina Lente Loc: Florida & Missouri

doogie wrote:

Ok, Made my decision everyone!!!
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I will be going with the Bronica ETRS. I'm going to buy two kits. Manual focus yes, but "learning to walk before I can fly here"

Thank you Thank you Thank you. To Everyone. both 35mm and Medium format are taken care of. You guys rock.

V/r,
Doogie

A wise choice. I'm sure you will have fun with it.

GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City

KEH has an ETRS with 75 F2.8 EII, 120 back, Prism, for $152. Yes, it's rated bargain, but KEH is known to be a bit harder on ratings than most.
http://www.keh.com/camera/Bronica-ETRS-Camera-Outfits/1/sku-ET019990531920?r=FE

Add the grip to that for $39 (I wouldn't go without it) and you are under $200 for a great little 6x4.5 camera that handles like a 35mm film or DSLR. 20 exposures per roll.
If you went with a Pentax 645, the lenses might kill your budget. I've use them too and loved it.

edit ................just saw you read my mind and beat me to the post.
Great choice!
Get the grip though!!!
It's a must!!!

rebride

Hope you got that with live view, oops, I mean with a waist level finder.

GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City

rebride wrote:

Hope you got that with live view, oops, I mean with a waist level finder.

Live view...LOL!
A prism is the better choice in this case.
Verticals are hard with the ETR and a waist level finder.
I do like looking directly at a ground glass though.
Maybe get both finders since it's such a great deal!

mtnredhed Loc: The part of NorCal that doesn't move

Because the holga is a pinhole camera for hipsters and the money would be better spent on film for a decent piece of kit?

But really,for the price of a DSLR kit lens you can buy a complete SLR/TLR kit that 20 years ago would of been at home in most pro's bags.

KEH is a low risk way to pick up gear

pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"

doogie wrote:

Wow! There are certainly alot of avenues. Hmm. Of... (show quote)

You won't have a problem with KEH. If you know your way around ebay (what to look for in a seller and what to look out for) you should do alright. I'd go with the Mamiya 645 and have been tempted to sell mine but I've wanted one since they first came out and now I have it. Even though I don't use it for now. :thumbup: :roll:

mtnredhed Loc: The part of NorCal that doesn't move

GoofyNewfie wrote:

rebride wrote:

Hope you got that with live view, oops, I mean with a waist level finder.

Live view...LOL!
A prism is the better choice in this case.
Verticals are hard with the ETR and a waist level finder.
I do like looking directly at a ground glass though.
Maybe get both finders since it's such a great deal!

Which is why the RB/RZ's are so cool. you don't turn the camera, you turn the film (like a view camera)

mtnredhed Loc: The part of NorCal that doesn't move

All this talk...now I've dragged my RB out of the closet and I'm jonesing for the big negs.

(shakes fist) Curse you! Now I'll have to thaw out some film and find a lab.

What next, sheet film for the Speed Graphic?

All that digital therapy gone for naught.

pounder35 Loc: "Southeast of Disorder"

mtnredhed wrote:

All this talk...now I've dragged my RB out of the closet and I'm jonesing for the big negs.

(shakes fist) Curse you! Now I'll have to thaw out some film and find a lab.

What next, sheet film for the Speed Graphic?

All that digital therapy gone for naught.

Check the light seals on the RB. They probably deteriorated in the twenty years since you last used the camera. And I hope the film you thawed wasn't the 120 Kodachrome. Good luck getting that processed. :roll:

GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City

mtnredhed wrote:

GoofyNewfie wrote:

rebride wrote:

Hope you got that with live view, oops, I mean with a waist level finder.

Live view...LOL!
A prism is the better choice in this case.
Verticals are hard with the ETR and a waist level finder.
I do like looking directly at a ground glass though.
Maybe get both finders since it's such a great deal!

Which is why the RB/RZ's are so cool. you don't turn the camera, you turn the film (like a view camera)

Yep. I've had two RB's and I wish it still did now, just to fire the shutter and let the vibration shake the snow off the roof.

rebride

GoofyNewfie wrote:

quote=mtnredhed quote=GoofyNewfie quote=rebride... (show quote)

A RB would be a really nice way to go.
Yep, verticals are really hard with a 645 with a WLF. Using one is a lot of fun though.
The 645 cameras were kind of like the APS-C negative size of the 120mm format.