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Feb 18, 2013 14:03:50   #
ohallboyz Loc: Boston, MA
 
I offered someone a free newborn shoot (a friend of a friend). I wanted to do more lifestyle work and needed to add to my portfolio. Come to find out she wants it in the evening. Usually I would say no to this but I am now wondering if I could make it work.

It will not be typical newborn posey stuff (beanbag, props and all that fun stuff) and I am planning on traveling light. Maybe a backdrop stand and a black or grey background for some shots and my flash/reflector if I have to use it to fill in shadows....and just process them all in black and white (which I love anyway).

Thoughts/suggestions from anyone? Am I crazy?

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Feb 18, 2013 14:07:20   #
Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business
 
Will there be any natural light at all?
Will the baby be ready for a nap?

I'd be worried that you are going to have to bump your ISO up pretty high if there isn't enough light.

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Feb 18, 2013 14:43:32   #
ohallboyz Loc: Boston, MA
 
I hear ya. First of all, I don't mind noise plus my camera can handle high ISO's pretty well. I actually don't mind if they use lights because I am going to have them be black and white - that way I don't have to worry about different light temps, especially if I want to bounce my flash in addition. This is not typically something I would do, but I do like a challenge. Offering black and white only will make my pp job much easier and I would like to add more b&w's to my portfolio.

However, this is something I've never done. I am all about natural light with newborns.

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Feb 18, 2013 14:45:59   #
Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business
 
ohallboyz wrote:
I hear ya. First of all, I don't mind noise plus my camera can handle high ISO's pretty well. I actually don't mind if they use lights because I am going to have them be black and white - that way I don't have to worry about different light temps, especially if I want to bounce my flash in addition. This is not typically something I would do, but I do like a challenge. Offering black and white only will make my pp job much easier and I would like to add more b&w's to my portfolio.

However, this is something I've never done. I am all about natural light with newborns.
I hear ya. First of all, I don't mind noise plus ... (show quote)


It's a free session so there's no harm in giving it a go to see what turns out right? I'd just give them a heads up that they are going to be b/w images and if you have to bump that ISO up you can go with "black/white images with a vintage film feel"... ya I've used that one on a free session before.

They actually turned out great, once I embraced the film feel.

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Feb 18, 2013 17:06:11   #
ohallboyz Loc: Boston, MA
 
Thanks Annie, that is the plan. I am leaning towards scrapping it (just because kids are on school vaca this week and I have no time to prepare)but I haven't called it just yet :) Wednesday night will be the only night this week I could do it. :)

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Feb 19, 2013 10:09:49   #
TJ28012 Loc: Belmont, NC
 
I would just bounce a strobe off a white ceiling. I have bounced through a diffuser for a softer result. You will be able to use a low ISO for better results. I have found that a flash used in this manner does not disturb babies or young children. You will be pleased with the results you will get. Watch your WB or shoot raw so you can adjust it later in PP.

Don't cancel a shoot simply because it is outside your comfort zone. Welcome this as a chance to learn something new.

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Feb 19, 2013 10:38:59   #
texasmama
 
Had a question about white balance....what would you set it at?....
TJ28012 wrote:
I would just bounce a strobe off a white ceiling. I have bounced through a diffuser for a softer result. You will be able to use a low ISO for better results. I have found that a flash used in this manner does not disturb babies or young children. You will be pleased with the results you will get. Watch your WB or shoot raw so you can adjust it later in PP.

Don't cancel a shoot simply because it is outside your comfort zone. Welcome this as a chance to learn something new.

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Feb 19, 2013 10:52:09   #
Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business
 
texasmama wrote:
Had a question about white balance....what would you set it at?....
TJ28012 wrote:
I would just bounce a strobe off a white ceiling. I have bounced through a diffuser for a softer result. You will be able to use a low ISO for better results. I have found that a flash used in this manner does not disturb babies or young children. You will be pleased with the results you will get. Watch your WB or shoot raw so you can adjust it later in PP.

Don't cancel a shoot simply because it is outside your comfort zone. Welcome this as a chance to learn something new.
Had a question about white balance....what would y... (show quote)


you can do a custom white balance, I personally shot with cloudly as it gives a nice warm feel, since I shot raw I can make any corrections easily to my WB in post (I use lightroom for my white balance corrections).

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Feb 19, 2013 11:02:02   #
texasmama
 
:)thank you for the hint...iwas playing with it the other evening and notice how it affected the color....i tryed florecent and tried totake a photo of something on my endtable under a florecent light and didnt find that it changed much...i guess i need to work down the list and see where things work best...:)
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texasmama wrote:
Had a question about white balance....what would you set it at?....
TJ28012 wrote:
I would just bounce a strobe off a white ceiling. I have bounced through a diffuser for a softer result. You will be able to use a low ISO for better results. I have found that a flash used in this manner does not disturb babies or young children. You will be pleased with the results you will get. Watch your WB or shoot raw so you can adjust it later in PP.

Don't cancel a shoot simply because it is outside your comfort zone. Welcome this as a chance to learn something new.
Had a question about white balance....what would y... (show quote)


you can do a custom white balance, I personally shot with cloudly as it gives a nice warm feel, since I shot raw I can make any corrections easily to my WB in post (I use lightroom for my white balance corrections).[/quote]

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Feb 19, 2013 11:13:06   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
ohallboyz wrote:
I offered someone a free newborn shoot (a friend of a friend). I wanted to do more lifestyle work and needed to add to my portfolio. Come to find out she wants it in the evening. Usually I would say no to this but I am now wondering if I could make it work.

It will not be typical newborn posey stuff (beanbag, props and all that fun stuff) and I am planning on traveling light. Maybe a backdrop stand and a black or grey background for some shots and my flash/reflector if I have to use it to fill in shadows....and just process them all in black and white (which I love anyway).

Thoughts/suggestions from anyone? Am I crazy?
I offered someone a free newborn shoot (a friend o... (show quote)


Here is my suggestion: clamshell or horizontal clamshell lighting set up.

Two speedlights and two stands/umbrellas and triggers.

Nice soft huge light with no shadows to deal with...easy, looks great...and versatile.

The baby can move around and you won't be dealing with lighting direction issues like on Rembrandt or other types of set ups...Once you have the basic placement of the baby...as long as the distance is pretty close....fire away!

It's pretty brainless and is the "go to" lighting for "easy to do"

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Feb 19, 2013 11:15:15   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
ohallboyz wrote:


However, this is something I've never done. I am all about natural light with newborns.


Or should you say..."I'm all about making the light LOOK like natural light with newborns..."

The light source doesn't matter, it's the "effect" you are after..and light is light. Right?

Put a strobe out the window, shooting through a bed sheet, gelled with a CTO and you have sunrise light....

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Feb 19, 2013 11:19:44   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
One thing to remember, if you are supplying ALL of the light (ala speedlights) you don't have any "color temp" issues to worry about ...if you are mixing flash and ambient, now you have to think about matching the temp of the ambient light.

One good reason to use all flash.

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Feb 21, 2013 02:31:40   #
LColt Loc: Virginia
 
I do the newborn Photographs at the local hospital where I am and we just bounce the flash off the ceiling from whatever angle we are at. It gives just enough light to make sure the baby can be seen but not too much to where its harsh. The way we set up is by using just 2 pillows in an A shape and draping a plain white sheet over them, it props the baby up for different poses and it is really easy to just move around to get a different angle.
Also, make sure the baby has eaten recently and has had a nap. There is nothing harder than trying to take a newborns photos when they are fussy or hungry.
Good Luck!

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Feb 21, 2013 05:07:12   #
ohallboyz Loc: Boston, MA
 
I decided to scrap this and I got the mother to reschedule for Monday morning. I haven't done many newborns but I haven't had a bad session yet. Hoping to stick to that trend. :)

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Feb 21, 2013 11:37:07   #
Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business
 
Can't wait to see them. I don't do newborn photography, it takes a skill I do not have. Newborns make me nervous and they can smell fear.

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