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Feb 12, 2013 16:44:48   #
pj81156 Loc: St. Petersburg, FL
 
A few days ago I asked for observations on a problem. I found my digital slr too daunting and was thinking about returning to film.

Well, you uhh members overwhelmed me. A very, very high percentage of you really gave me great advise and perspectives, delivered in pleasant and helpful terms. Sometimes you were very funny. And, there are more film fans than I expected. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Just a few of you did a lot of writing to prove how clever you are. Only one person was downright rude.

I also learned that a lot of you are older, like me.

I have made an imaging capturing decision, largely because of your input. I won't bother you with that decision. That's not important. What is important is how uhhs rally to be helpful. Again, thank you. And, now, I have to go order some film!

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Feb 12, 2013 17:15:23   #
sarge69 Loc: Ft Myers, FL
 
pj81156 wrote:
A few days ago I asked for observations on a problem. I found my digital slr too daunting and was thinking about returning to film.

Well, you uhh members overwhelmed me. A very, very high percentage of you really gave me great advise and perspectives, delivered in pleasant and helpful terms. Sometimes you were very funny. And, there are more film fans than I expected. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Just a few of you did a lot of writing to prove how clever you are. Only one person was downright rude.

I also learned that a lot of you are older, like me.

I have made an imaging capturing decision, largely because of your input. I won't bother you with that decision. That's not important. What is important is how uhhs rally to be helpful. Again, thank you. And, now, I have to go order some film!
A few days ago I asked for observations on a probl... (show quote)


Sorry about the rudeness. They are here that's for sure. Glad you made a choice and made the choice clear. Have fun

Sarge69

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Feb 12, 2013 17:52:22   #
nivek340 Loc: South Hadley Ma.
 
Given the cost of Full frame Digital cams. I have in the past few days thought about going back to film for that perspective that I just can't get with my crop frame digital interchangeable lens camera.
Why? For me that (they) the camera manufactures can't make a bare bones full frame with interchangeable lens camera. You could in film, but digital no. APS chip yes.

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Feb 12, 2013 18:23:23   #
Darkroom317 Loc: Mishawaka, IN
 
Glad that you are no dissuaded from your decision. Also, I am 23 and I love film so not everyone who does it is old.

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Feb 13, 2013 04:43:43   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
pj81156 wrote:
A few days ago I asked for observations on a problem. I found my digital slr too daunting and was thinking about returning to film.

Well, you uhh members overwhelmed me. A very, very high percentage of you really gave me great advise and perspectives, delivered in pleasant and helpful terms. Sometimes you were very funny. And, there are more film fans than I expected. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Just a few of you did a lot of writing to prove how clever you are. Only one person was downright rude.

I also learned that a lot of you are older, like me.

I have made an imaging capturing decision, largely because of your input. I won't bother you with that decision. That's not important. What is important is how uhhs rally to be helpful. Again, thank you. And, now, I have to go order some film!
A few days ago I asked for observations on a probl... (show quote)


I had to look back at the post you talked about to see what I had said that was rude, as I normally get blamed for that, though I assume you mead Nevada chuck now.

This is a forum, and you will get "honest" replies.

See MY post

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-96634-1.html

So you know MY opinion of film

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Feb 13, 2013 06:56:40   #
Mortimer Levy
 
On touring Europe, I was amazed how many people are still shooting film. M.L. Montreal

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Feb 13, 2013 07:27:33   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
pj81156 wrote:
A few days ago I asked for observations on a problem. I found my digital slr too daunting and was thinking about returning to film....Just a few of you did a lot of writing to prove how clever you are. Only one person was downright rude.



To be perfectly honest, I found your post to be confusing at best and I don't blame Nevada Chuck for making light of it. It's the sort of post that makes people roll their eyes when they read it.

You had said:

Quote:

In Program with my Nikon I never had a bad exposure, and when I wanted to depart from Program it was so easy to change metering, f stop and shutter speed.


I asked what's difficult about adjusting those three on a DSLR? In other words...what does that have to do with the medium upon which the image is captured?

Considering the OP...I think that everyone who posted was more than amicable.

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Feb 13, 2013 09:10:15   #
photobuf Loc: Mississippi
 
Well Grasshoppa, I hope you have deep pockets---not for the film, for the processing. I shoot hundreds of shots---mostly bracketing---and wind up throwing away 90% or more. I was so happy when digital came out---mainly because my pockets are SHALLOW! :-)

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Feb 13, 2013 09:46:23   #
14kphotog Loc: Marietta, Ohio
 
Dear Photobuf, If you really know your gear and how it works you can stop doing SOOO many bracketing shots and get it right in the camera. If you had spent a lot of time shooting SLIDES you could have saved some $$$$$.
Not being nasty, just saying it as I feel. :D :D :thumbup:

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Feb 13, 2013 13:24:09   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
pj81156 wrote:
A few days ago I asked for observations on a problem. I found my digital slr too daunting and was thinking about returning to film.

Well, you uhh members overwhelmed me. A very, very high percentage of you really gave me great advise and perspectives, delivered in pleasant and helpful terms. Sometimes you were very funny. And, there are more film fans than I expected. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Just a few of you did a lot of writing to prove how clever you are. Only one person was downright rude.

I also learned that a lot of you are older, like me.

I have made an imaging capturing decision, largely because of your input. I won't bother you with that decision. That's not important. What is important is how uhhs rally to be helpful. Again, thank you. And, now, I have to go order some film!
A few days ago I asked for observations on a probl... (show quote)


To me there's lots to consider about either.

Film cameras, I used them only because that's all we had then, were very bare bones. You figure out the f/stop, shutter speed, focus and fire. Digital slr cameras can be used just the same way if you've a mind to.

The major problem with film, of course, is the cost. Using my Canon I go out and find say a bird shot. I'll rattle off 50-frames and keep one. In film that would cost who knows how much today. Digital, delete 49 and go on with zero cost - full frame or not... to me it makes little difference except in the cost of buying the gear whether is full or crop sensor as long as I'm happy with my results.

I'm assuming that "bare bones" means none of the cheesy modes we find on some digital cameras today. I for one never use them, they're basically a marketing ploy to make people think that if they use those modes they're somehow going to come up with amazing photos. We, as photographers pro and advance amateur, know that's not true and try to tell young folks that. But, as with anything else, they have to live it to learn it.

I guess it's a matter of preference. Film is good. Digital is good. It all depends on whether you have the skill to operate both camera and lens.
Same with film cameras - having that skill is essential to good results.

Good luck, have fun and regardless of the media - enjoy!

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Feb 13, 2013 13:37:24   #
photobuf Loc: Mississippi
 
14kphotog wrote:
Dear Photobuf, If you really know your gear and how it works you can stop doing SOOO many bracketing shots and get it right in the camera. If you had spent a lot of time shooting SLIDES you could have saved some $$$$$.
Not being nasty, just saying it as I feel. :D :D :thumbup:


Probably so friend but the cost of processing was always a detriment to me having photography as a hobby as it is with most. With digital all it cost is 1 and 0's, my time pp and a good printer. At least my way, I can see what I am going to get without having someone else make any of the pp decisions.
I'm not being nasty either, just saying how I feel. :-)

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Feb 13, 2013 15:02:03   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
pj81156 wrote:

Sometimes you were very funny.

Only one person was downright rude.

a lot of you are older, like me.

And, now, I have to go order some film!


Pj, glad you were able to get some satisfactory help. I also hope I wasn't the jerk ! And yes, many, many of us are not only old film guys, but old period.
Geeeze Pj, I wonder what you wound up with ? !
But don't tell us, let that be the big mystery ! !

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Feb 13, 2013 15:39:48   #
djfkeefe
 
No matter what, film has a quality of softness that I find lacking in digital...plus film's limited number of shots available per roll forces the photographer to THINK and compose before pressing that button...

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Feb 13, 2013 16:16:40   #
Mortimer Levy
 
One cannot deny that digital photography has brought millions of shooters into the picture. More cameras are sold in one year than in the past 15 years of fllm photography. The advent of computer polished lenses are making it difficult to see the performance differences between a 150$ camera and a 1,000$ one. Mediocre photographers are shooting 50 shots instead of one, as in the past, and by the law averages, they're going to come up with one good one. Bottom line: digital photography has become a 'free for all' where amateurs can occasionally show professional type results. Regards m.L.

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Feb 13, 2013 17:52:04   #
bluescreek Loc: N.C. Sandhills
 
Film's ok, I developed a roll of Tri-X today in D-76. I still use the aprons. People all around me got the digital, includin' my wife and brother, but I'm staying with this darkroom work until you can't get the supplies anymore.

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