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Feb 8, 2013 12:01:31   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
I have seen a few postings about the meaning of bokeh on this site so I was interested to see a simple explanation while reading a post on Digital Photography School website. For those of you who were not clear on this subject, it said:

Bokeh is a Japanese term for the subjective aesthetic quality of out-of-focus areas in a photographic image.

Also noted was that drool-worthy bokeh comes from prime lenses with large apertures, like f/1.4 and f/1.8 and the subject should be placed far from the background. It was strongly pointed out that the quality of the bokeh was the most important aspect - i.e. good bokeh should not be confused with shallow depth-of-field - the terms are not interchangeable.

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Feb 8, 2013 12:05:51   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
Can you show us an example of yours?

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Feb 8, 2013 12:09:32   #
Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business
 
You can get yummy wonderful quality bokeh with zoom lenses as well, the Canon 70-200L and 24-70L produce the effect nicely, which is why those lenses are highly recommended by portrait photographers.

I have a thing for prime lenses; I let my feet be my zoom. I kind of think of it as my exercise routine, lol.

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Feb 8, 2013 12:17:41   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
I wasn't talking about my photos - just reiterating an explanation I'd read. I'm sure I've got some in my collection. I'd have to search though.
St3v3M wrote:
Can you show us an example of yours?

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Feb 8, 2013 12:26:46   #
Festina Lente Loc: Florida & Missouri
 
DebAnn wrote:
I have seen a few postings about the meaning of bokeh on this site so I was interested to see a simple explanation while reading a post on Digital Photography School website. For those of you who were not clear on this subject, it said:

Bokeh is a Japanese term for the subjective aesthetic quality of out-of-focus areas in a photographic image.

Also noted was that drool-worthy bokeh comes from prime lenses with large apertures, like f/1.4 and f/1.8 and the subject should be placed far from the background. It was strongly pointed out that the quality of the bokeh was the most important aspect - i.e. good bokeh should not be confused with shallow depth-of-field - the terms are not interchangeable.
I have seen a few postings about the meaning of bo... (show quote)
You make an often overlooked or misunderstood point.

..."good bokeh should not be confused with shallow depth-of-field - the terms are not interchangeable."

Thanks! :thumbup:

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Feb 8, 2013 14:28:52   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
To me, bokeh is just another buzz word that's fashionable to talk about. No matter how you say it...it means D.O.F.!

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Feb 8, 2013 14:35:13   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
cjkorb wrote:
To me, bokeh is just another buzz word that's fashionable to talk about. No matter how you say it...it means D.O.F.!


Yes to the first part.
NO to the second.
At least get it right!

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Feb 8, 2013 14:35:17   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
cjkorb wrote:
To me, bokeh is just another buzz word that's fashionable to talk about. No matter how you say it...it means D.O.F.!


I agree... boohoo on bok___ I'm sorry, I just can't say it. It hurts my sensitive ears. However, I did run across this funny video regarding the Sigma 35mm f/1.4. If you are into this kind of thing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edJStBgM6GQ&feature=em-subs_digest

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Feb 8, 2013 14:35:44   #
mdorn Loc: Portland, OR
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
cjkorb wrote:
To me, bokeh is just another buzz word that's fashionable to talk about. No matter how you say it...it means D.O.F.!


Yes to the first part.
NO to the second.
At least get it right!


:thumbup:

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Feb 8, 2013 15:18:20   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
cjkorb wrote:
To me, bokeh is just another buzz word that's fashionable to talk about. No matter how you say it...it means D.O.F.!


Yes to the first part.
NO to the second.
At least get it right!
Wow, a little sniffy arn't we? ok... technically, depth of field was sort of a bad term to use. Bokeh is elements of a photograph that is forced out of focus or it depends on whose definition you prefer to use.

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Feb 8, 2013 15:27:47   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
cjkorb wrote:
GoofyNewfie wrote:
cjkorb wrote:
To me, bokeh is just another buzz word that's fashionable to talk about. No matter how you say it...it means D.O.F.!


Yes to the first part.
NO to the second.
At least get it right!
Wow, a little sniffy arn't we? ok... technically, depth of field was sort of a bad term to use. Bokeh is elements of a photograph that is forced out of focus or it depends on whose definition you prefer to use.



Your definition has no mention of the aesthetic quality of that out of focus area, which is the key.

Like you, I prefer not to use the word at all. But if you are going to use it, don't put mis-information out there to keep the newbies confused.

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Feb 8, 2013 16:47:24   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
Bokeh was splained to me to be "selective focus"
Wherein, the object of your shot is in focus and the areas outside the point of interest are intentionally out of focus.
Sooooooooooooo it is perfectly acceptable to say controlled DOF.
I imagine the more experienced shooters would have a more appropriate definition

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Feb 8, 2013 16:55:02   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
If you google the word Bokeh, you will repeatedly see "quality of the blur" used in the definition. DebAnn has it right!
http://www.google.com/search?q=hosemaster+photography&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&ei=s75jT6PsBcL00gHs7t3ACA&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=1&ved=0CC4Q_AUoAA&biw=1301&bih=770#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=2&gs_ri=serp&tok=Vq3VYPk4xyPPkyey0kw3yw&pq=hosemaster%20photography&cp=5&gs_id=k&xhr=t&q=bokeh&es_nrs=true&pf=p&tbo=d&sclient=psy-ab&oq=bokeh&gs_l=&pbx=1&fp=1&biw=1160&bih=655&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&cad=b


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokeh

Bokeh is not how far something is out-of-focus, bokeh is the character or quality of whatever blur is there.


Gotta look beyond selective focus to see the difference.

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Feb 8, 2013 17:01:43   #
Annie_Girl Loc: It's none of your business
 
Bokeh is the difference in lens aberrations and aperture shape cause some lens designs to blur the image so it is pleasing to the eye. Bokeh occurs for parts of the scene that lie outside the depth of field. Sometimes the deliberate use a shallow focus technique to create an image with prominent out-of-focus regions.

Bokeh is often most visible around small background highlights, such as wonderful reflections and light sources, which is why it is often associated with such areas. But just to confuse everyone bokeh is not limited to highlights, quality bokeh can be noted in all out of focus areas.

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Feb 8, 2013 17:04:03   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
DebAnn wrote:
I have seen a few postings about the meaning of bokeh on this site so I was interested to see a simple explanation while reading a post on Digital Photography School website. For those of you who were not clear on this subject, it said:

Bokeh is a Japanese term for the subjective aesthetic quality of out-of-focus areas in a photographic image.

Also noted was that drool-worthy bokeh comes from prime lenses with large apertures, like f/1.4 and f/1.8 and the subject should be placed far from the background. It was strongly pointed out that the quality of the bokeh was the most important aspect - i.e. good bokeh should not be confused with shallow depth-of-field - the terms are not interchangeable.
I have seen a few postings about the meaning of bo... (show quote)

Oh, I thought you were going to be showing pictures of that town in Florida.

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