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Feb 8, 2013 11:08:14   #
BillG
 
Going to take the plunge this weekend and order canon 70-200mm F2.8L IS. My question is I want to get a extender with it. Will the ef 1.4x or 2.0x work better, any lost of quality in pic's. Birds and wildlife is what i'll be shooting. Thanks!

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Feb 8, 2013 11:29:22   #
Bret Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
Bill...anytime you put glass in front of your lens...or between your lens and camera 2 things will happen...you will lose light...and image quality to some degree. I shoot Nikon so I cant really tell you about which one is better for that lens.

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Feb 8, 2013 11:33:04   #
BillG
 
thanks for replying, will keep hunting

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Feb 8, 2013 11:48:07   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
The only converter I have found to be any good is the 1.4 TelePlus pro 300 DGX

http://www.steveoakley.net/template_permalink.asp?id=263

Rarely does anyone other than a newby use a 2x and I agree 100% with Bret

Personally I would rather buy a longer lens in the first place


http://www.birdforum.net/reviews/showproduct.php/product/77

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Feb 8, 2013 12:14:47   #
Georgie Loc: England
 
I agree with JR1

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Feb 8, 2013 12:29:11   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
BillG wrote:
Going to take the plunge this weekend and order canon 70-200mm F2.8L IS...

http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-95650-1.html

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Feb 8, 2013 13:05:02   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
St3v3M wrote:
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-95650-1.html


Does that have a point to the question of Teleconverters and what to use

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Feb 8, 2013 13:05:50   #
JR1 Loc: Tavistock, Devon, UK
 
Georgie wrote:
I agree with JR1


And I agree with Bret :)

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Feb 8, 2013 13:08:49   #
St3v3M Loc: 35,000 feet
 
JR1 wrote:
St3v3M wrote:
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-95650-1.html


Does that have a point to the question of Teleconverters and what to use


BillG wrote:
Going to take the plunge this weekend and order canon 70-200mm F2.8L IS...

Thank you. I missed the quote and while not directly related to the question the first part of the statement was to purchase a lens this weekend. There is one for sale by one of our members and I pointed them to it.

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Feb 8, 2013 15:46:21   #
Db7423 Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
Can't help you but I use the Nikon 1.7 very successfully with my Nikon 70-200. However it is true you do lose light. For the 1.7 it is 1-1/2 stops. Even so it is still faster than most telephoto lenses.

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Feb 8, 2013 16:14:16   #
BillG
 
Thanks everyone, appricate all the info, i'll be thinking this over alittle more.

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Feb 8, 2013 16:25:43   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
BillG wrote:
Going to take the plunge this weekend and order canon 70-200mm F2.8L IS. My question is I want to get a extender with it. Will the ef 1.4x or 2.0x work better, any lost of quality in pic's. Birds and wildlife is what i'll be shooting. Thanks!



buying a "hide" or a blind would be better than an extender,
simply put getting closer to your subject will provide cleaner crisper images than more glass.
Given the choice I would opt for a 400 lens over a 200 with an extender.
Yes I know glass is pricy. That said, glasss is forever, bodies come and go.

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Feb 9, 2013 07:09:48   #
TimS Loc: GA
 
I have the canon 70-200 2.8. I rented both the 2.0 and 1.4TCs. The 2.0 was terrible. Image quality was poor - contrast was poor. I just didn't like it. I notice some image degradation with the 1.4 by it is acceptable with sufficient light.

I wish I had some pics I could post as samples but I deleted all the ones taken with the 2.0 so - sorry.

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Feb 9, 2013 09:04:46   #
clixpix Loc: Surprise, Arizona
 
BillG wrote:
Going to take the plunge this weekend and order canon 70-200mm F2.8L IS. My question is I want to get a extender with it. Will the ef 1.4x or 2.0x work better, any lost of quality in pic's. Birds and wildlife is what i'll be shooting. Thanks!


I have the 300, 2.8L lens and a 2X extender that are about 15 years old. I also have the 70-200 2.8 also about 15 years old so they are the older Canon technology with no IS. I recently used the 300 and the 2X at a local park using my 50D and a tripod. Here is an example of the 300 and the 2X right out of the camera, no PP. You can decide. I have also read, perhaps on this site, that IS degrades the image just a little, not sure however since my long lenses do not have IS.

With Canon 300, f2.8L and 2X extender
With Canon 300, f2.8L and 2X extender...

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Feb 9, 2013 10:28:33   #
oldtool2 Loc: South Jersey
 
BillG wrote:
Going to take the plunge this weekend and order canon 70-200mm F2.8L IS. My question is I want to get a extender with it. Will the ef 1.4x or 2.0x work better, any lost of quality in pic's. Birds and wildlife is what i'll be shooting. Thanks!


If you are asking which is a better choice go with the 1.4X As general rule a 2X converter degraded the quality of the photo too much. You might be better off going with a lens that will reach out to 300mm, HOWEVER, most everyone that shoots birds or wildlife will end up buying a 70-200mm f2.8 lens eventually. It is an excellent lens! A fantastic lens for low light and detail, and for larger birds or animals at close range. It is not a bad place to start, and with a 1.4X not a bad combination.

Jim D

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