St Louis Stats for 2012: 2012 MURDER STATISTICS St. Louis ended 2012 with 113 murders. Here are some of the victims' characteristics: 92 percent were African-American 76 percent...

imntrt1 Loc: St. Louis

2012 MURDER STATISTICS

St. Louis ended 2012 with 113 murders.
Here are some of the victims' characteristics:
92 percent were African-American
76 percent were from 20 to 29
83 percent had prior felony arrests
86 percent were men
25 percent are believed to have known their killers
67 percent tested positive for drugs
11 percent had domestic relationships with their killers
Here are some of the suspects' characteristics:
65 were arrested or listed as wanted
75 percent are 17 to 29
97 percent are African-American
91 percent are men
84 percent had prior felony arrests

HEART Loc: God's Country - COLORADO

Interesting comparison of the two groups.

ReFlections Loc: From LA to AL

imntrt1 wrote:

2012 MURDER STATISTICS br br St. Louis ended 2012... (show quote)

Seems like we need a new society of people.

bebo1998 Loc: Baltimore MD area

Did you mention St. Louis???? I'll post these then, taken from the "you-know-what" in June. Happy thoughts!

;)

Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip

Chicago makes St. Louis look Amish, 512 murders
Willing to bet the stats are, if not mirror image, similar

tschmath Loc: Los Angeles

imntrt1 wrote:

2012 MURDER STATISTICS br br St. Louis ended 2012... (show quote)

Where did this info come from? You should always list your sources for stuff like this.

imntrt1 Loc: St. Louis

Bruce with a Canon wrote:

Chicago makes St. Louis look Amish, 512 murders
Willing to bet the stats are, if not mirror image, similar

St. Louis is much smaller than Chicago...Our Urban Flight has dwindled our population down to under 400K...Closer to 300K than 400K. Per Capita we are often listed as Murder Capital of the U.S. Back when I was on the streets of STL as a patrol officer we averaged over 300 murders a year...in the 70s. Our officer population has also been downsized to about half what it was in my day...yet, even with the smaller population, we still have as many or more major crimes as in the 70s.

imntrt1 Loc: St. Louis

tschmath wrote:

quote=imntrt1 2012 MURDER STATISTICS br br St. L... (show quote)

Straight from the police department.

HEART Loc: God's Country - COLORADO

bebo1998 wrote:

Did you mention St. Louis???? I'll post these then, taken from the "you-know-what" in June. Happy thoughts!

;)

Love the color, Barb!

imntrt1 Loc: St. Louis

bebo1998 wrote:

Did you mention St. Louis???? I'll post these then, taken from the "you-know-what" in June. Happy thoughts!

;)

The restoration on the old court house is done and all the scaffolding is gone now. Did you know that it is reputed to be haunted? It is the site of the Dread Scott Decision from the 1800s addressing slavery, where a slave (Scott) sued for his freedom.

As for the ball park...today construction began on "Ballpark Village" which should be completed by the 2014 season. A venue of Entertainment and Restaurant locations built on the site next to the stadium on the site of the old stadium. 100 million dollar project.

bebo1998 Loc: Baltimore MD area

Thanks, Heart.
And Mr. imntrt1 - I did not know that about Dread Scott but that is great information. Thanks for letting me post and lightening up the conversation. I stopped in SL in June on my way to CO and got lost in a not so nice area - it was quite desolate looking - but the city has a lot to offer - maybe someday they will rehab like they've done in Baltimore.

imntrt1 Loc: St. Louis

bebo1998 wrote:

Thanks, Heart.
And Mr. imntrt1 - I did not know that about Dread Scott but that is great information. Thanks for letting me post and lightening up the conversation. I stopped in SL in June on my way to CO and got lost in a not so nice area - it was quite desolate looking - but the city has a lot to offer - maybe someday they will rehab like they've done in Baltimore.

St Louis has its problems, but it does have a lot to offer. I love the old architecture and it used to have many "neighborhoods" that were unique in their own right. Some are still hanging on and have yearly events, Soulard(Diverse), Dog Town(irish), The Hill,(Italian) come to mind. There are some attempts to rehab some of it and I hope they are successful...but the prospect is slim at best.

bebo1998 Loc: Baltimore MD area

Baltimore had lotteries for $1 houses - had to stay with orig owners, be occupied in a stated time frame, etc. But it worked! Some of those neighborhoods got very chi chi. However, some neighborhoods that used to be lovely are occupied by (fill in the blank) now and they are getting shabbier each year. I live in the neighborhood I grew up in, and it breaks my heart that I may have to move before I go out horizontally!

imntrt1 Loc: St. Louis

bebo1998 wrote:

Baltimore had lotteries for $1 houses - had to stay with orig owners, be occupied in a stated time frame, etc. But it worked! Some of those neighborhoods got very chi chi. However, some neighborhoods that used to be lovely are occupied by (fill in the blank) now and they are getting shabbier each year. I live in the neighborhood I grew up in, and it breaks my heart that I may have to move before I go out horizontally!

Know exactly what you are saying. St. Louis had a program a few years back where you could buy an abandoned home for pennies on the dollar....had to rehab them in an allotted time period. But it kind of died off and I haven't heard about it for years now. St Louis has it yuppie neighborhoods, but I think many of the residents go into them with blinders on and not knowing what they are really getting into. I joked with my son a few years ago that we could move into the city, but I didn't want to shoot my way in and out of the house everyday. The Soulard and Dog Town neighborhoods are still livable, but they are rapidly declining. The Hill area is still occupied by many old settled Italian families and seems to be holding its own. I would love to live in Dog Town (Irish) but there again, you would never recoup the cost of a house there, or in Soulard. Both are surrounded by areas that no prudent man or woman should be in without being armed.

bebo1998 Loc: Baltimore MD area

Baltimore's Little Italy section is surrounded on 3 sides by public housing - but they hold their own - Italians look out for each other, but the younger generations are moving to the suburbs, too. It is just what happens.