Remoman
Loc: Someplace Remote Near LA
And they wonder why voters change and go Demo?
RMM
Loc: Suburban New York
Mac wrote:
http://www.politicususa.com/deadly-tornado-batters-district-gop-congressman-opposed-sandy-aid.html
I feel sorry for his constituents, though it should be noted that they voted him into office, so I guess they share his views. However, I hope he has the character to stand by his beliefs and refuse federal aid.
Maybe he was thinking about the billions of dollars that gets paid out in fraudulent claims after a disaster and that the money would be better spent on something like the Red Cross or Salvation Army. When it comes to wasteful spending, nobody does it better than any government entity. There usually is two sides to every story but a lot of UHHers and most people don't seem to think so. It's what they think and anybody who disagrees with them is a total a**hole.
Remoman
Loc: Someplace Remote Near LA
EdJ0307 wrote:
Maybe he was thinking about the billions of dollars that gets paid out in fraudulent claims after a disaster and that the money would be better spent on something like the Red Cross or Salvation Army. When it comes to wasteful spending, nobody does it better than any government entity. There usually is two sides to every story but a lot of UHHers and most people don't seem to think so. It's what they think and anybody who disagrees with them is a total a**hole.
As one who was a victim of the Northridge quake, I assure you that help was needed and appreciated then.
I am sure there were abusers then as there are now but do you punish the victims because of a few crooks?
I hope when you need some help, you do not get turned away because someone might cheat and abuse the system.
RobertW
Loc: Breezy Point, New York
Breezy Pointers have two words for the Congressman.....
Remoman wrote:
As one who was a victim of the Northridge quake, I assure you that help was needed and appreciated then.
I am sure there were abusers then as there are now but do you punish the victims because of a few crooks?
I hope when you need some help, you do not get turned away because someone might cheat and abuse the system.
I was there for Loma Prieta and the flooding in Vallejo, Napa, Fairfield area. But I guess you are right. Stuff happens so we might at well accept it and move on. That seems to be the philosophy of the country. If we get screwed over, oh well, just accept it and move on. Nothing we can do about. Or are willing to do about it. Easier to just roll with the punches. Even though no other country on the planet would put up with the crap we do.
You libs pass judgement freely without bothering to get all of the facts.
The hurricane bill that the responsible people voted against had so much pork in it that only 10% of the amount of spending in the bill would actually go toward hurricane relief.
Mac
Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
BigBear wrote:
You libs pass judgement freely without bothering to get all of the facts.
The hurricane bill that the responsible people voted against had so much pork in it that only 10% of the amount of spending in the bill would actually go toward hurricane relief.
10%????
I think you better check your "facts". :roll:
Mac wrote:
BigBear wrote:
You libs pass judgement freely without bothering to get all of the facts.
The hurricane bill that the responsible people voted against had so much pork in it that only 10% of the amount of spending in the bill would actually go toward hurricane relief.
10%????
I think you better check your "facts". :roll:
The libs have no shame for sending a porkulous bill to the house in the name of hurricane relief.
And shame on all of you who approve of such ludicrous behavior ....
RMM
Loc: Suburban New York
What pork? Be specific, please. Otherwise, I have to assume you pulled that number out of... the air.
RMM wrote:
What pork? Be specific, please. Otherwise, I have to assume you pulled that number out of... the air.
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/01/02/the-pork-filled-and-expensive-nonrelief-sandy-relief-bill-n1477710$58.8 million for forest restoration on private land.
$197 million to
protect coastal ecosystems and habitat impacted by Hurricane Sandy.
$10.78 billion for public transportation, most of which is allocated to future construction and improvements, not disaster relief.
$17 billion for Community Development Block Grants (CDBG), a program that has become notorious for its use as a backdoor earmark program.
$13 billion would go to mitigation projects to prepare for future storms.
Other big-ticket items in the bill include $207 million for the VA Manhattan Medical Center; $41 million to fix up eight military bases along the storms path, including Guantanamo Bay, Cuba; $4 million for repairs at Kennedy Space Center in Florida; $3.3 million for the Plum Island Animal Disease Center and $1.1 million to repair national cemeteries.
Includes more than $8 million to buy cars and equipment for the Homeland Security and Justice departments. It also includes a $150 million for the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to dole out to fisheries in Alaska and $2 million for the Smithsonian Institution to repair museum roofs in DC.
Also includes millions of dollars for Amtrak upgrades, FBI salaries and road projects in states not affected by the storm.
Christie called on Congress to "do their job," while failing to acknowledge part of the job is preventing misuse of taxpayer funds for pet projects not related to legislation at hand.
RMM
Loc: Suburban New York
Your source seems to be a right-wing idealogue, probably no more reliable than her counterparts at the other end of the spectrum. If there's pork in the bill, it was what was apparently necessary to get the bulk of the money passed. Just one example of twisting things: I suspect the $17.8 billion for public transportation is to replace things like subway equipment that have been put back into service, but which were damaged by salt water. While they may be operating now, their reliability has been compromised. As to "mitigation" projects, now that the storm of the century has become an annual event, things like breakwaters are the only alternative to outright abandonment. Rebuilding some of the dunes on the Jersey shore may be questionable, but are we prepared to abandon coastal regions altogether? And, if Congress had acted responsibly in the beginning, would any pork have been necessary at all?
RMM wrote:
Your source seems to be a right-wing idealogue, probably no more reliable than her counterparts at the other end of the spectrum. If there's pork in the bill, it was what was apparently necessary to get the bulk of the money passed. Just one example of twisting things: I suspect the $17.8 billion for public transportation is to replace things like subway equipment that have been put back into service, but which were damaged by salt water. While they may be operating now, their reliability has been compromised. As to "mitigation" projects, now that the storm of the century has become an annual event, things like breakwaters are the only alternative to outright abandonment. Rebuilding some of the dunes on the Jersey shore may be questionable, but are we prepared to abandon coastal regions altogether? And, if Congress had acted responsibly in the beginning, would any pork have been necessary at all?
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Half of congress is acting somewhat responsible and shooting down the bills they are handed from the senate that we can't afford any which way. And you libs are programmed to shoot down the conservatives because we don't fit your agenda and your 'feel good now' propositions. You also fail miserably to look ahead to see what the end result of your decisions may be nor do you care as long as you get what you want now.
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