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Jan 29, 2013 19:46:14   #
pinkycat Loc: The Garden State
 
fstop22 wrote:
Let me go back and try this again.
For the most part Jumping spiders are better photographed in the area you find them. If you observe for awhile you will see they tend to hang in the same area. Females for the most part are territorial and if you return to the same area you will most likely run across them again. Not always, just depends when they are out foraging. I return time after time to photograph the local jumping spiders. I've tried a few times removing them and taking home to photograph. The will instantly start roaming as to find their way home. They move much slower when left in their environment. You can even coral them with your hand, making them turn around and head back. If you place a stick down for them to climb on the will go to the top and sit for a minute also, just have a place ready to brace your stick and get the shot. Many times they will perch and watch you, making this a great time to photograph also. If you use your Flash, set ISO at 400, Shutter speed 1/200 and aperture at 22 you will likely capture some good photos. The flash and shutter speed will help with spider movement and camera shake. I hope this helps, I just feel attached to the jumpers as I photograph so many.
Let me go back and try this again. br For the mos... (show quote)
I understand your attachment. They are pretty cute. This little guy was in my dark damp basement and there was absolutely no way to photograph him there. But I will try your suggestions in the future. I would never intentionally harm any living thing. It's my first attempt and I just couldn't make it work. I did save him so I can practice in the future without harming any other jumpers.

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Jan 29, 2013 20:08:27   #
martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida
 
pinkycat wrote:
I understand your attachment. They are pretty cute. This little guy was in my dark damp basement and there was absolutely no way to photograph him there. But I will try your suggestions in the future. I would never intentionally harm any living thing. It's my first attempt and I just couldn't make it work. I did save him so I can practice in the future without harming any other jumpers.
They love to climb on stuff. They will start at the bottom and go all the way to the top. It's easy to direct them with your finger also...Here's a photo of me directing one back to where I can get a good shot. You won't always walk away with good photos, just part of the macro challenge. Always another day and another chance.





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Jan 29, 2013 20:29:20   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
fstop22 wrote:
Let me go back and try this again . . .
Cut us a little slack here. Many of us have photographed a dead insect or two. Most of mine were found dead; one croaked in the freezer in just 2-minutes. Lesson learned.

This spider is already dead, and is now an excellent training subject for a novice macro-photographer with limited equipment. Speedlight will eventually be budgeted, but in the meantime, available light technique can be practiced.

Also, OP should investigate making your DIY diffuser for camera's pop-up flash: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-32754-3.html#1177497

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Jan 29, 2013 20:39:25   #
tinusbum Loc: east texas
 
i have put a couple in the fridge,a mosquito in the freezer(he didnt make it) i didnt feel bad....heres what i have been doing lately.my wife let me use a large mixing bowl,i put spiders,centipedes,earwigs anything that cant fly i put in the bowl and shoot all i want.works great for anything that dont fly or jump.tom

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Jan 29, 2013 20:40:42   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
Pinky - One important aspect of using a NON-macro lens with extension tubes: A true macro lens has a flat Field-of-View, so when you photograph a flat subject like a coin, the corners of your image will be in focus as well as the center. A standard lens has a curved FoV, so when you photograph a flat coin, the corners may not be in focus as is the center. The more shallow your DoF, the more OOF in the corners. This phenomenon is most obvious with flat subjects, but is also apparent on 3-D subjects.

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Jan 29, 2013 21:26:46   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
Given that the spider is now dead, I would pose him and try both focus stacking and some hand-held shots with softbox. Just for comparison. Never focus stacked anything other than flowers, mushrooms, etc-- but I'd give it a go.

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Jan 29, 2013 22:56:19   #
pinkycat Loc: The Garden State
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
Pinky - One important aspect of using a NON-macro lens with extension tubes: A true macro lens has a flat Field-of-View, so when you photograph a flat subject like a coin, the corners of your image will be in focus as well as the center. A standard lens has a curved FoV, so when you photograph a flat coin, the corners may not be in focus as is the center. The more shallow your DoF, the more OOF in the corners. This phenomenon is most obvious with flat subjects, but is also apparent on 3-D subjects.
Pinky - One important aspect of using a NON-macro ... (show quote)
Thanks for the ideas. I appreciate your taking the time, Douglass as well as the rest of you! I know I'll get it, just need a lot more practice. :-)

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Jan 29, 2013 22:56:48   #
pinkycat Loc: The Garden State
 
LoneRangeFinder wrote:
Given that the spider is now dead, I would pose him and try both focus stacking and some hand-held shots with softbox. Just for comparison. Never focus stacked anything other than flowers, mushrooms, etc-- but I'd give it a go.
Focus stacking is a new one for me. Any place I can look for some tutorials?

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Jan 29, 2013 23:50:02   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
pinkycat wrote:
Focus stacking is a new one for me. Any place I can look for some tutorials?
In the search field type: FAQ: Focus Stacking & Depth of Field

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Jan 30, 2013 00:21:54   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
pinkycat wrote:
Focus stacking is a new one for me. Any place I can look for some tutorials?
FAQ: What is Focus Stacking, and What Programs are Required?
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-50561-1.html

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Jan 30, 2013 07:31:05   #
richardh76 Loc: VT, Central, Champlain Valley
 
fstop22 wrote:
Let me go back and try this again.
For the most part Jumping spiders are better photographed in the area you find them. If you observe for awhile you will see they tend to hang in the same area. Females for the most part are territorial and if you return to the same area you will most likely run across them again. Not always, just depends when they are out foraging. I return time after time to photograph the local jumping spiders. I've tried a few times removing them and taking home to photograph. The will instantly start roaming as to find their way home. They move much slower when left in their environment. You can even coral them with your hand, making them turn around and head back. If you place a stick down for them to climb on the will go to the top and sit for a minute also, just have a place ready to brace your stick and get the shot. Many times they will perch and watch you, making this a great time to photograph also. If you use your Flash, set ISO at 400, Shutter speed 1/200 and aperture at 22 you will likely capture some good photos. The flash and shutter speed will help with spider movement and camera shake. I hope this helps, I just feel attached to the jumpers as I photograph so many.
Let me go back and try this again. br For the mos... (show quote)
The spider whisperer has spoken! Great info, thanks!
Richard

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Jan 30, 2013 12:37:25   #
sford122 Loc: Amarillo TX
 
fstop22 wrote:
Female Jumping Spider Bites the Dust. Photographing insects in the wild is the challenge, at least for me. Other than a few post I've seen on this Forum I think everyone shoots live insects and not frozen. I would rant and rave a little more, but too tired after work.


I sooo agree. Nearly cried for this little one.

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Jan 30, 2013 14:08:51   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
sford122 wrote:
fstop22 wrote:
Female Jumping Spider Bites the Dust. Photographing insects in the wild is the challenge, at least for me. Other than a few post I've seen on this Forum I think everyone shoots live insects and not frozen. I would rant and rave a little more, but too tired after work.
I sooo agree. Nearly cried for this little one.
I can empathize with Pinkcat, the first spider I chilled I killed because I did not realize just how sensitive to cold that they are. Have not done that a second time but it happens. Let's face it Jumping Spiders make for some of the most impressive macro shots you can get without focus stacking, we can't all be like Martin... He has a special talent for these little guys, I think that he actually finds more of them than Shahan does and that is quite remarkable in and of itself...

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Jan 30, 2013 17:18:06   #
Roger Sr. Loc: Central Coast of California
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
sford122 wrote:
fstop22 wrote:
Female Jumping Spider Bites the Dust. Photographing insects in the wild is the challenge, at least for me. Other than a few post I've seen on this Forum I think everyone shoots live insects and not frozen. I would rant and rave a little more, but too tired after work.
I sooo agree. Nearly cried for this little one.
I can empathize with Pinkcat, the first spider I chilled I killed because I did not realize just how sensitive to cold that they are. Have not done that a second time but it happens. Let's face it Jumping Spiders make for some of the most impressive macro shots you can get without focus stacking, we can't all be like Martin... He has a special talent for these little guys, I think that he actually finds more of them than Shahan does and that is quite remarkable in and of itself...
quote=sford122 quote=fstop22 Female Jumping Spid... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Jan 30, 2013 17:33:53   #
pinkycat Loc: The Garden State
 
Nikonian72 wrote:
FAQ: What is Focus Stacking, and What Programs are Required?
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-50561-1.html
Great links! What I get out of it is stacking does for focus, what HDR does for exposure. I primarily use PSE11. What preferences do you have for software?

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