raw files only in color?????
Jan 15, 2013 20:49:21 #
shot my first set in raw the frames that I shot in B/W (in camera)
downloaded to the computer (LR4) in color
what the hell??
downloaded to the computer (LR4) in color
what the hell??
Jan 15, 2013 21:00:38 #
Yep.
The best way to get good black & white images is to convert from a raw file, which contains information from the red, green & blue pixels.
You have a lot more control of how the different colors go to greyscale.
It you shot jpeg too (or only jpeg) those would be black & white images.
Nik Silver Efex Pro 2 is one of the best Plug-ins.
http://www.niksoftware.com/silverefexpro/usa/entry.php
The best way to get good black & white images is to convert from a raw file, which contains information from the red, green & blue pixels.
You have a lot more control of how the different colors go to greyscale.
It you shot jpeg too (or only jpeg) those would be black & white images.
Nik Silver Efex Pro 2 is one of the best Plug-ins.
http://www.niksoftware.com/silverefexpro/usa/entry.php
Jan 15, 2013 21:09:26 #
Weird I thought the best B/W would have been shot bw in camera. so in editing I should edit in color as shot in raw then at the end convert to bw???
Jan 15, 2013 21:16:56 #
Loudbri wrote:
Weird I thought the best B/W would have been shot bw in camera. so in editing I should edit in color as shot in raw then at the end convert to bw???
I don't have Lightroom, but in Adobe Camera Raw, you can convert to greyscale and adjust the colors there.
Jan 15, 2013 22:13:37 #
Loudbri wrote:
Yeah, shoot in color then convert in lightroom. If you have photoshop, then you can move it there for final tweaking.Weird I thought the best B/W would have been shot bw in camera. so in editing I should edit in color as shot in raw then at the end convert to bw???
Jan 15, 2013 22:46:15 #
You're camera shoots in RAW and will convert what it sees in RAW to create a B/W JPEG image but you're raw is always what the camera sees (color). B/W settings only apply to the JPEG it creates.
The big question is, do you want your camera to make the JPEG or would you like to do it yourself?
The big question is, do you want your camera to make the JPEG or would you like to do it yourself?
Jan 16, 2013 00:57:56 #
Does your camera allow you to shoot raw + jpg? That way you'd get your b/w image too
Jan 16, 2013 01:02:27 #
FilmFanatic
Loc: Waikato, New Zealand
The reason it is showing the RAW file in colour, is that Lightroom does not have the ability to decrypt the part of the RAW file that has information such as picture style, b&w mode and so on. That info is encrypted by the manufacturer so Lightroom just applies a default set of settings to it.
If you used the manufacturer's software to load the RAW file you would see it in b&w
If you used the manufacturer's software to load the RAW file you would see it in b&w
Jan 16, 2013 05:31:28 #
TimS
Loc: GA
Loudbri wrote:
Weird I thought the best B/W would have been shot bw in camera. so in editing I should edit in color as shot in raw then at the end convert to bw???
The best B&W is when you shoot in color and convert it yourself. The only way you'll get a B&W image from your digital camera is to shoot in B&W mode in jpg. But why? All you get is a muddy middle gray image that is your camera mfgrs interpretation of what a middle ground average B&W scene would look like.
Do not be confused. You can take the same scene and turn it into an infinite number if B&W images all with different impacts on what you, the artist, want to be the focal point in the photo.
Jan 16, 2013 07:26:41 #
As all are saying, doing your own B&W is much better because you can adjust the balance in much the same way as one would have using filters on b&w film. This works for either jpg or raw.
Try, for example, reducing the blue channel in a B&W output and watch what that does to the sky. Adjusting green will impact foliage and so on.
The in-camera B&W is not very useful at all.
Try, for example, reducing the blue channel in a B&W output and watch what that does to the sky. Adjusting green will impact foliage and so on.
The in-camera B&W is not very useful at all.
Jan 16, 2013 07:40:02 #
Loudbri wrote:
shot my first set in raw the frames that I shot in B/W (in camera)
downloaded to the computer (LR4) in color
what the hell??
downloaded to the computer (LR4) in color
what the hell??
You didn't mention which camera you use. However, when I shoot in monochrome with my D700, the only program that sees the output as black and white is the Nikon software, ViewNX or CaptureNX. Adobe RAW sees the color version of the RAW file.
I prefer to use the Nikon software because the monochrome setting allows me to add filters. much as my film cameras would.
Jan 16, 2013 13:43:36 #
Like others have said. Using the photo shot in raw gives you incredible power to adjust all the gray scales.
Jan 16, 2013 17:13:30 #
The only best way to get b&w is to start with a good color pic ^then to convert it to b&w Gene.
Jan 17, 2013 21:25:37 #
Loudbri;
Correct. RAW is exactly that, every bit of data that your camera could capture, colour, light intensity and on and on.
RAW ignores every setting in your camera, and that is exactly where your B/W images would come from, a setting in your camera.
As mentioned in a previous post, the best possible B/W images would come from converting it from a colour image.
Correct. RAW is exactly that, every bit of data that your camera could capture, colour, light intensity and on and on.
RAW ignores every setting in your camera, and that is exactly where your B/W images would come from, a setting in your camera.
As mentioned in a previous post, the best possible B/W images would come from converting it from a colour image.
Jan 25, 2013 14:19:30 #
Just one last point. The raw file is actually not colour, it is the luminance value for each pixel in the sensor. Because the sensor has a colour filter over each pixel arranged in a mosaic pattern, part of raw processing is to determine a colour for each pixel. This is called demosaicizing and is one thing that differentiates various raw processors. The pattern varies between manufacturers but most are repetitive patterns of 4 pixels with 2 green and 1 blue and red filter
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