A film for thought - Extreme pro-guns need not watch
Jan 8, 2013 12:25:18 #
Jan 8, 2013 12:57:37 #
I have seen that and beleive it to be 100% true.
I used to work with cops and know that with as much training and practice as they get - the hit ratio in a cop involved shooting is 20% and the average distance is 5 feet.
Still, the choice between being able to have a fighting chance or no chance at all...easy choice.
I used to work with cops and know that with as much training and practice as they get - the hit ratio in a cop involved shooting is 20% and the average distance is 5 feet.
Still, the choice between being able to have a fighting chance or no chance at all...easy choice.
Jan 8, 2013 13:19:10 #
I held a firearms licence and shot at bisley and a local club for many years, match shooting, you don't honestly believe that the mr big must have a gun brigade care about these vids do you, they always have an excuse.
Jan 8, 2013 13:53:56 #
Propaganda created by an agency known to have a serious anti-gun agenda.
I do not want everyone in this country to own and carry a gun, I do want everyone to have the right to carry a gun.
The difference between me, and I fear you, is you want to make my decisions for me, and I want you to be free to make your own decisions.
It is called FREEDOM, try it, you might like it. Be beforwarned, once you have it, you will not want to lose it!
I do not want everyone in this country to own and carry a gun, I do want everyone to have the right to carry a gun.
The difference between me, and I fear you, is you want to make my decisions for me, and I want you to be free to make your own decisions.
It is called FREEDOM, try it, you might like it. Be beforwarned, once you have it, you will not want to lose it!
Jan 8, 2013 14:34:44 #
This video was not about the 2nd Amendment. It was about the difference between a trained police officer and someone who got their license by firing six rounds down range. This exercise was there to prove a point and that is that most untrained people are not up to the task of getting in a gunfight and coming out in 1st place.
Don't read into it. If you want to engage a shooter like a police officer, then you need to train like one.
Otherwise, you're just an armed victim.
Don't read into it. If you want to engage a shooter like a police officer, then you need to train like one.
Otherwise, you're just an armed victim.
Jan 8, 2013 14:43:59 #
Frank T wrote:
This video was not about the 2nd Amendment. It was about the difference between a trained police officer and someone who got their license by firing six rounds down range. This exercise was there to prove a point and that is that most untrained people are not up to the task of getting in a gunfight and coming out in 1st place.
Don't read into it. If you want to engage a shooter like a police officer, then you need to train like one.
Otherwise, you're just an armed victim.
Don't read into it. If you want to engage a shooter like a police officer, then you need to train like one.
Otherwise, you're just an armed victim.
It is the same difference as First Aid, and a Trained Full-Up Medical Doctor. First Aid is not a Cardologist. Armed citizens are not Rapid Response Armed Special Weapons and Tactics Police Squad members.
However, if I am having a heart attack, I really like the CPR trained civilian being there. And armed citizentry would/could/might be a good thing to have available until the cops can get there.
We are not expecting our armed citizens to run into a bank robbery to stop a Hollywood Style Mutiple Commando Bank Heist. But, it someone shots at me, I really want the opportunity to return fire.
Under your limited logic, to respond to a heart attack, the individual needs to be a cardologist, I am living proof that you are wrong. A concerned stranger who know CPR saved my life. Even though his training was out of date by several months!
Jan 8, 2013 15:19:37 #
Crwiwy wrote:
Nice that you are so worried for us over here... BTW Just what is the crime rate in Switzerland as compared to the rest of Europe?
Jan 8, 2013 17:35:43 #
UXOEOD wrote:
quote=Frank T This video was not about the 2nd Am... (show quote)
So let me get this straight. Carrying a gun is the same as learning CPR?
No comment.
Jan 8, 2013 17:45:20 #
Frank T wrote:
quote=UXOEOD quote=Frank T This video was not ab... (show quote)
Well done, you do have the ability to learn. Yes, knowing CPR, carrying jumper cables, carrying a first aid kit, and carrying a gun are all little things to be prepared to render assistence to your fellow man.
Jan 8, 2013 19:23:19 #
Jan 9, 2013 00:41:07 #
no extreme pro gun, I am proudly extreme CONSTITUTIONAL LIBERTIES. Or in lib speak, I AM PRO CHOICE for the right to bear arms which is in the Constitution, and pro life against women killing their yet to born babies which isn't. Planned Parenthood has killed more innocents then the firearm industry and the automobile industry combined. To those who want to eliminate my constitutional rights, which one of yours can I eliminate. Personally would love to see Miranda in the dumpster, and any requirement for a search warrant! Sorry pals but the US constitution is not an all you can eat Chinese buffet where you get to pick and choose. Your 1st amendment right is an individual liberty, same as my second. And in the words of "love and Marriage" you can't have one and not the other.
Or in the words of Senator Barry Goldwater. Moderation in the defense of freedom is no virtue, and extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.
Or in the words of Senator Barry Goldwater. Moderation in the defense of freedom is no virtue, and extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.
Jan 9, 2013 04:45:43 #
JR1 wrote:
I held a firearms licence and shot at bisley and a local club for many years, match shooting, you don't honestly believe that the mr big must have a gun brigade care about these vids do you, they always have an excuse.
No, it was just an interesting thought for the average person who responsibly owns a gun and may show them any weakness that could be addressed with thought and practice.
I gave up on the Rambo's on UHH and judging by the responses to my trying to understand their views - have come to the conclusion that they may ironically be a great asset to the 'Liberals' because the average person may see them as proof that stricter gun laws are required.
American gun laws don't affect me one way or another so my views are as an impartial observer.
Jan 9, 2013 04:47:37 #
sinatraman wrote:
no extreme pro gun, I am proudly extreme CONSTITUT... (show quote)
Perhaps you would care to explain what all that rhetoric has to do with the video - or do you just take any opportunity to let off steam about your pet hates? :roll:
Jan 9, 2013 04:51:06 #
UXOEOD wrote:
Propaganda created by an agency known to have a serious anti-gun agenda.
I do not want everyone in this country to own and carry a gun, I do want everyone to have the right to carry a gun.
The difference between me, and I fear you, is you want to make my decisions for me, and I want you to be free to make your own decisions.
It is called FREEDOM, try it, you might like it. Be beforwarned, once you have it, you will not want to lose it!
I do not want everyone in this country to own and carry a gun, I do want everyone to have the right to carry a gun.
The difference between me, and I fear you, is you want to make my decisions for me, and I want you to be free to make your own decisions.
It is called FREEDOM, try it, you might like it. Be beforwarned, once you have it, you will not want to lose it!
Showing your paranoia! The film is nothing to do with the first or second amendment, nor anything to do with taking away your rights.
No, American gun laws don't affect me one way or another so my views are as an impartial observer.
Jan 9, 2013 04:53:51 #
UXOEOD wrote:
quote=Frank T This video was not about the 2nd Am... (show quote)
Just make sure that unlike the trained police officer in the film - you don't shoot yourself in the foot! :XD:
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