tschmath Loc: Los Angeles

This is the hypocrisy of religious zealots. You say you have no objection to any other kind of birth control. Birth control pills do not prevent conception, they merely stop implantation of a fertilized egg in the womb. Did you read that - a fertilized egg. Prevents implantation, meaning the fertilized egg dies. So what's different between that and an abortion at 10 or 12 or 13 weeks? In both cases, according to religious extremists, a human life is ended. But according to your own statement, a two-day old embryo can die, just not a more developed one. Total hypocrisy.

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

What type of egg are you talking about tschmath?

JBTaylor Loc: In hiding again

Interesting but how does that relate to this thread?

So do you have a problem with companies to which the administration chooses to give a waiver (apply unequally)? There is hypocrisy all around and religion is not necessary for it to exist. I have seen much hate, bigotry, and intolerance from self styled opponents of hate, bigotry, and intolerance.




Interesting but incorrect interpretation. I'm married too. :lol:

tschmath Loc: Los Angeles

Are you serious? Or are you trying to make some sort of joke? I'm tKing about a fertilized human egg.

Gnslngr

Not a clue what you are talking about, but you seem more interested in pulling me into a discussion about Obama (who you incorrectly assume I support) because you apparently don't agree with him than having a real debate on the issues.

Not interested. :thumbup:

JBTaylor Loc: In hiding again

Really??? Are you serious? To be clear, I am not challenging your characterization of how birth control pills work. That view has been expressed by abortion opponents, particularly Catholics, who are also opposed to birth control of nearly every kind. But one gynecologist I know explained it differently to me. Frankly I can't tell where you stand on abortion or what your point is but your slander of Eugene as an example of the hypocrisy of religious zealots is unfair, illogical, and borderline dishonest.

First of all, let's include the full context of Eugene's comment including the part you conveniently left out.



Eugene's not having a problem with the morning after pill is predicated on Blurryeyed's statement that the morning after pill prevents conception. Prior to that Eugene expressed opposition to it consistent with your viewpoint. Where is the hypocrisy?

So while you are tilting at windmills and using "heads, I win, tails. you lose" perversion of logic to falsely accuse Eugene of hypocrisy of the "religious zealot" variety, it is clear that your real disagreement is with Blurryeyed and Gnslngr.

You owe Eugene an apology.

By the way, are you opposed to birth control pills or are you okay with ending life at every stage of development or age for any reason?

Gnslngr

Finally! The posting police are here!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

So...if this fertilized egg is indeed alive and developing,has life begun at this point?

PrairieSeasons Loc: Red River of the North

An interesting question that will likely take this thread in a whole other direction. The pro-abortion people would have us believe that life doesn't become human until completely free of the womb. Adherents of the Jewish faith would have it when the heart first beats around 22 days after fertilization. Adherents of the Catholic faith would have it at the time of conception.

With medical science continuing to make the babies viable at earlier and earlier times, the pro-abortion position becomes more and more difficult to defend.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

Absolutely agree, there is a point during a pregnancy that abortion becomes murder, no matter your religious belief or lack there of.... So many libs bemoan the death penalty for cold blooded murders, yet have no problem with the slaughter of an innocent infant!

Michael O' Loc: Midwest right now

Timothy and Blurryeyed : Yes, the scientific question has now evolved to "when does the human life begin ?" Religiously, we know. For the atheist it is easy to say "birth", as if that little bundle of life was a clump of NOTHING until popping out of the birth canal. As we are all well aware, the courts are slowly being pushed to face reality on this question too. I wonder how long it will take before the unborn are treated as kindly as released and forgiven adult killers ? We are a strange and self-centered society.

yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon

When I first started learning about biology, we were taught about the "life cycle" of a creature.It always started with conception and always ended in death.Life never started a couple of weeks or months later .In science life begins at conception,everything else is a political contortion of science.I'm off to my weekly blood letting.Cheers.

Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga

You have to have that too?