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Dec 19, 2012 16:02:23   #
LoisCroft Loc: Jonesborough, Tennessee
 
For a long time, I've suspected there is something wrong with my D5000. Pictures almost always come out too dark. I have increased the EV, but it seems to not really help. I reset to the factory settings and took a picture of my cat, then took another with my new D5100. Quite a difference! The shots were taken just a few seconds apart, so light didn't change, neither did the position of the cat. I hate to send the D5000 back to Nikon for repair, but I will if you think it would help.
Following are two shots, the first taken with the D5000, the second with the D5100. Thanks!!

D5000
D5000...

D5100
D5100...

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Dec 19, 2012 16:21:22   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
Definitely looks like a difference in the metering. Both shot in AUTO?

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Dec 19, 2012 16:24:20   #
LoisCroft Loc: Jonesborough, Tennessee
 
Both shot in auto so we're comparing apples to apples. Also the same lens on each 18-55mm.

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Dec 19, 2012 16:28:12   #
JoboX Loc: Liverpool UK
 
LoisCroft wrote:
Both shot in auto so we're comparing apples to apples. Also the same lens on each 18-55mm.


Cat and angle moved position try putting on a tripod to give a more accurate comparison.... no flash etc

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Dec 19, 2012 16:40:10   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
LoisCroft wrote:
Both shot in auto so we're comparing apples to apples. Also the same lens on each 18-55mm.


I just checked the dead center of both shots, the top is in black fur, the bottom is in white fur. Was your D5000 set on SPOT metering? That will make a huge difference in your exposures.

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Dec 19, 2012 16:43:37   #
LoisCroft Loc: Jonesborough, Tennessee
 
Yes, it was, I thought I had reset that when I reset to factory settings.

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Dec 19, 2012 16:50:52   #
MT Shooter Loc: Montana
 
LoisCroft wrote:
Yes, it was, I thought I had reset that when I reset to factory settings.


Now try them both with Center weighted, and AUTO, and see if they are more comparable.

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Dec 19, 2012 16:57:46   #
Stef C Loc: Conshohocken (near philly) PA
 
^^^ Bingo. But, I do think the 5100 vs 5000 image quality is noticeably better

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Dec 19, 2012 18:06:18   #
LoisCroft Loc: Jonesborough, Tennessee
 
Thanks everyone. I'll try center weighted and auto and will post the results.

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Dec 19, 2012 19:22:54   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
LoisCroft wrote:
Yes, it was, I thought I had reset that when I reset to factory settings.


While I use spot focus I usually use matrix metering. I think you'll find matrix metering works better under most situations and in this case should give you similar results.

The exception is when I am shooting a subject against a backround of different exposure e.g. a bird against the sky.

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Dec 19, 2012 20:03:27   #
LoisCroft Loc: Jonesborough, Tennessee
 
Tried as you suggested, tripod, also used center weight and auto with no flash. Result was they were very close. I would like to try this experiment again tomorrow in daylight and see if I get the same results. Unfortunately tonight the cats moved, maybe tomorrow I can catch them sleeping.
Thanks!!!

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Dec 19, 2012 21:53:03   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
LoisCroft wrote:
Tried as you suggested, tripod, also used center weight and auto with no flash. Result was they were very close. I would like to try this experiment again tomorrow in daylight and see if I get the same results. Unfortunately tonight the cats moved, maybe tomorrow I can catch them sleeping.
Thanks!!!

Try a very simple still life scene. Solid color background with just two objects in the foreground - nothing alive. Use a tripod, of course, and hit the green reset buttons on both cameras.

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Dec 19, 2012 22:02:22   #
LoisCroft Loc: Jonesborough, Tennessee
 
OK Will do. Thanks!!

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Dec 20, 2012 09:52:08   #
Clif Loc: Central Ca.
 
My 2 month old D5100 is on its way back to Nikon for repair also. I hope in the communication you have better luck than I did with the phone center. I don't think those folks have tried to take a serious photograph or used anything other than a point and shoot. Their communication skills and the crib sheet they work from, not to mention their lack of training are deplorable as a representative of any serious business. The problem is one that should have been caught in Final Inspection. I suspect the root cause is one of purchasing components from the lowest bidder, one who's price was too low to allow a part of commercial good quality.

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Dec 20, 2012 10:33:19   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Clif wrote:
My 2 month old D5100 is on its way back to Nikon for repair also. I hope in the communication you have better luck than I did with the phone center. I don't think those folks have tried to take a serious photograph or used anything other than a point and shoot. Their communication skills and the crib sheet they work from, not to mention their lack of training are deplorable as a representative of any serious business. The problem is one that should have been caught in Final Inspection. I suspect the root cause is one of purchasing components from the lowest bidder, one who's price was too low to allow a part of commercial good quality.
My 2 month old D5100 is on its way back to Nikon f... (show quote)

The tech people aren't photographers. They're phone-talkers. They have a manual that they use to look up customers' problems and try to find and answer.

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