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Dec 4, 2012 21:30:01   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
This video is on the cft.org website. Cft is the acronym for the California Federation of Teachers.... Those who say that our schools are not preparing the way towards socialism.... Just how do you explain this video? Really nice that they show the rich guy actually urinating on the people....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cwg4DB-EeEA

http://cft.org/

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Dec 4, 2012 22:07:16   #
Bangee5 Loc: Louisiana
 
One word - lies!

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Dec 4, 2012 22:24:25   #
cameraniac Loc: Huntingburg, Indiana
 
That is shown in schools???

I'm afraid that it will take nothing less than bloodshed to turn this country back around...

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Dec 5, 2012 00:44:38   #
BillHenry
 
Hmmm... I guess the truth hurts. Is that teaching Socialism or social revolution?

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Dec 5, 2012 02:30:52   #
Danilo Loc: Las Vegas
 
It's so easy to get the poor people to hate the rich people, even an idiot like Ed Asner can do it! Wish I had a job that easy!
BTW: I wonder how much Asner was paid for this? Prevailing wage, perhaps?

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Dec 5, 2012 06:54:38   #
rayford2 Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
 
Danilo wrote:
It's so easy to get the poor people to hate the rich people, even an idiot like Ed Asner can do it! Wish I had a job that easy!
BTW: I wonder how much Asner was paid for this? Prevailing wage, perhaps?


IMO Ed Assner wasn't much of an actor either.

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Dec 5, 2012 06:57:24   #
Photogdog Loc: New Kensington, PA
 
Danilo wrote:
It's so easy to get the poor people to hate the rich people, even an idiot like Ed Asner can do it! Wish I had a job that easy!
BTW: I wonder how much Asner was paid for this? Prevailing wage, perhaps?


Keep in mind, Ed Asner was once quoted as having said that before he dies, he wants to play the part of Joseph Stalin "The most misunderstood leader in history". Conservative erstimates place Stalin's executions of his own people at 20 million. The figure is probably closer to 30 million. Asner was head of the Actors Guild which just goes to show how much in tune these people are.

When GW Bush ran for re-election in 2004, Alec Baldwin & others of the Hollywood elite claimed that if Bush was re-elected, they'd leave the country. Funny, I missed the headline that Baldwin & his ilk moved overseas. These days Baldwin is doing TV commercials for a credit card company. I guess the rich has its privileges.

Good God, what hypocrisy!

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Dec 5, 2012 07:53:10   #
TimS Loc: GA
 
The rich get richer because they have more disposable income that they can use to invest. The poor do not have as much disposable income so they don't really have much left over after all the bills are paid to invest. Therefore their money does not grow like someone who does invest.

Perhaps, just perhaps, there are not enough rich people to pick up the tab for the exponentially growing population of poor people.

But I guess common sense and reasoning are foreign to the ills of Ed Asner.

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Dec 5, 2012 08:31:01   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
BillHenry wrote:
Hmmm... I guess the truth hurts. Is that teaching Socialism or social revolution?


Problem is is that is your political point of view to which you are certainly entitled, but this looks a little like indoctrination to many of us and it should not be taught to children who do not have the education and experience necessary to process the information that an adult does...

Pretty much like "The Story of Stuff" that was shown and taught in classrooms all across the country... Is it any wonder that president Obama and the liberals win the youth vote?

Below is a link to "The Story of Stuff" which is very offensive to anyone who thinks that politics should be left out of the grade school experience or that indoctrination is a dangerous thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLBE5QAYXp8

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Dec 5, 2012 09:00:24   #
TheRabidOne
 
It is an old tactic of any repressive governmental philosophy or individuals who want to further repress their subjects (note I didn't say citizens). If you "re-educate" the youth, you can control the future regardless of the 'old ways'. I keep being amazed as to how surprised people get when they 'suddenly' realize their children are being taught philosophies contrary to what this country was founded upon or taught things contrary to the parent's beliefs. The reason we are at this point isn't because of political party A or political party B nor this or that politician. That argument is specious and a cop-out. It is because parents have become too lazy, self absorbed, and cast off their duties to take personal responsibility for what their children are taught, etc. Don't escape into the delusion that 'I'm too busy working, etc.' to teach my kids. That is a salve to make one feel better about abandoning one's children's education. There are so few parents showing up at parent/teacher conferences that it is revolting. With my wife having over thirty years in public education it is at an all time low in parent involvement. And I've see the same indirectly having worked in a non-teaching position in public schools. And I've directly seen the result of the lack of parental involvement in a student's education having taught part-time several college level courses. Why is everyone so surprised? JMHO YMMV

BTW: I doesn't look like indoctrination, it is indoctrination. Accept that fact and you will take one step ahead of everyone else.

It truly isn't that the population of 'poor' are so much greater than the rich, although numerically that is a fact. The issue is one, firstly, of the perversion and metered dismantlement of the tenets of the limits of power placed on the federal government by the restrictions enumerated in the Constitution. Secondly in a similar arena; yet somewhat different emphasis is the similarly dismantlement of the Rule of Law. Specifically where the Congress Critters are immune to the laws they pass for the 'commoners' among other debasements of American jurisprudence. These two center pieces of the dismantling of our American Constitution is engineered, conscious action or result of an eroding process, by the power mongers to dismantle the World's largest and most successful Middle Class into two distinctly different classes of the Elites and their indentured servants. Hence a new feudalistic system is created as a result. JMHO yet again.

And just what real impact does any Hollyweird actor, Asner et. al., other than being the poster boy or girl for Socialism, which BTW they are immune from because of their bloated paychecks? They blow all the hot air they want, just laugh and ignore them. They aren't part of the problem, just a symptom of it in all it's perversions.

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Dec 5, 2012 09:40:38   #
Crwiwy Loc: Devon UK
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
This video is on the cft.org website. Cft is the acronym for the California Federation of Teachers.... Those who say that our schools are not preparing the way towards socialism.... Just how do you explain this video? Really nice that they show the rich guy actually urinating on the people....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cwg4DB-EeEA

http://cft.org/


Personally I thought the film very good and that it is quite a good representation of what has happened in the UK where the poor are seeing more and more cuts to services while seeing big companies and individuals getting tax breaks and loop-holes. :(

I don't see this as socialism - but as a sad truth.

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Dec 5, 2012 09:55:18   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Crwiwy wrote:
Blurryeyed wrote:
This video is on the cft.org website. Cft is the acronym for the California Federation of Teachers.... Those who say that our schools are not preparing the way towards socialism.... Just how do you explain this video? Really nice that they show the rich guy actually urinating on the people....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cwg4DB-EeEA

http://cft.org/


Personally I thought the film very good and that it is quite a good representation of what has happened in the UK where the poor are seeing more and more cuts to services while seeing big companies and individuals getting tax breaks and loop-holes. :(

I don't see this as socialism - but as a sad truth.
quote=Blurryeyed This video is on the cft.org web... (show quote)


The bigger question is is this appropriate to be teaching to children who are not informed enough to draw their own conclusions. UK politics aside, you are an adult and can draw your own informed conclusion as to what is happening in your country, typically the deeper you dig for facts and understanding you find that solutions are not always so easy. Those tax breaks you speak of may be necessary to hold those corporations in your country and maybe necessary for their continued growth and survival in the international economy. That is a different topic

The question here is, is it the correct thing for the state educational system to begin teaching one sided and arguably exaggerated political doctrine to grade school children? The simplicity with which the video characterizes the problems it addresses is grossly unfair and uninformed... This is hardly a fair assessment and does not belong in any classroom in my opinion.

In the past this would have been considered to be against core American values, but I am not so sure that still holds true today.

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Dec 5, 2012 10:05:29   #
denverdon
 
What a way to generate class warfare! No solution offered except socialistic distribution of wealth. So far I've never seen this work, of course I' only 74.

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Dec 5, 2012 10:08:41   #
denverdon
 
What a way to generate class warfare! No solution offered except socialistic distribution of wealth. So far I've never seen this work, of course I' only 74.

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Dec 5, 2012 11:19:03   #
English_Wolf Loc: Near Pensacola, FL
 
This is a good video as it does illustrate the problem. I love the folks here who say criticize the vulgarization of a serious problem and call it propaganda.

What this does is show the reality of a society going bad.

Love the 74 old geezer here: Look at the tax rate when he was a young man 91% tax rate for the high income. Now the same folks pay 10% if not less due to all the exemptions, credits and loop holes.

http://taxfoundation.org/article/us-federal-individual-income-tax-rates-history-1913-2011-nominal-and-inflation-adjusted-brackets *

I am all for rewarding folks for their work, capability and innovation but I am also against a system that stacks the odds and allow the top earners (including silver spoon leeches - heirs) to get away with contributing next to nothing to our country finances.

The don't tax the rich so that they can invest is bullshit to anyone who objectively look at the past. The funny part (but sad really) is that all the morons who call themselves from the 'conservative side' are uneducated incredibly naive poor who think that they will win the lotto and then benefit from their idiotic stance.

As to the arguably exaggerated political doctrine, since when showing the process that led to the current 'GOP political doctrine'? Since when is teaching historical data (see link) in a way that is easy to understand wrong, biased and politicized?

If you want to show bias, bigotry and promote an agenda, just read the tone of the post itself and the 'followers' who agree w/o a second thought.

* While this link gives the impression that the top earners were paying 91% this is not true. The 91% applied on anything above the 'level' income, meaning that the tax calculation was a bit iffy.

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