Lost keywords: Lightroom and Bridge
Dec 4, 2012 07:54:39 #
I installed Lightroom 4 for Windows and imported all my photos. I had assigned keywords to them in Bridge. The keywords appear in LR but not in Bridge.
How do I get my keywords back into Bridge without doing a system restore?
Thanks
How do I get my keywords back into Bridge without doing a system restore?
Thanks
Dec 5, 2012 07:36:08 #
abc1234 wrote:
I installed Lightroom 4 for Windows and imported all my photos. I had assigned keywords to them in Bridge. The keywords appear in LR but not in Bridge.
How do I get my keywords back into Bridge without doing a system restore?
Thanks
How do I get my keywords back into Bridge without doing a system restore?
Thanks
I'm confused as to what you did and what you are doing. My version of Lightroom 4 (actually 4.2) doesn't have Bridge. However, Photoshop CS6 does. Whatever I do in Lightroom is not reflected in Bridge since Bridge is part of Photoshop, not Lightroom, and what I do in Bridge is reflected in Photoshop but not in Lightroom.
Dec 5, 2012 09:08:27 #
Russel, I fixed the problem by restoring the keyword file.
I am surprised that the edits made in Bridge do not show up in Lightroom and vice versa. I would have thought that if you are editing raws, both programs would generate the same sidecar. Or if you are editing jpg's, both programs would read them in the same fashion.
Another conclusion of this debacle is that I prefer my Bridge to Camera Raw to Photoshop workflow to one that starts with Lightroom.
I am surprised that the edits made in Bridge do not show up in Lightroom and vice versa. I would have thought that if you are editing raws, both programs would generate the same sidecar. Or if you are editing jpg's, both programs would read them in the same fashion.
Another conclusion of this debacle is that I prefer my Bridge to Camera Raw to Photoshop workflow to one that starts with Lightroom.
Dec 5, 2012 12:43:00 #
abc1234 wrote:
Russel, I fixed the problem by restoring the keyword file.
I am surprised that the edits made in Bridge do not show up in Lightroom and vice versa. I would have thought that if you are editing raws, both programs would generate the same sidecar. Or if you are editing jpg's, both programs would read them in the same fashion.
Another conclusion of this debacle is that I prefer my Bridge to Camera Raw to Photoshop workflow to one that starts with Lightroom.
I am surprised that the edits made in Bridge do not show up in Lightroom and vice versa. I would have thought that if you are editing raws, both programs would generate the same sidecar. Or if you are editing jpg's, both programs would read them in the same fashion.
Another conclusion of this debacle is that I prefer my Bridge to Camera Raw to Photoshop workflow to one that starts with Lightroom.
The only thing I use Lightroom for right now is to create JPGs from the RAW files. Lightroom is the only program I've found that lets you choose to create images that are, say, 1000 pixels wide ON THE LONGEST SIDE. That's important when one has both landscape and portrait photos. Everything else I do in Bridge, Camera Raw, and Photoshop.
Dec 5, 2012 16:52:49 #
russelray wrote:
quote=abc1234 I installed Lightroom 4 for Windows... (show quote)
Bridge is named what it is because it's supposed to be a "bridge" between all Adobe products. It isn't part of PhotoShop but comes with PhotoShop. Keywords in PhotoShop and everything else Bridge gets in touch with should all be compatible with, and linked together by, Bridge to every Adobe product on the computer. At least that's what they told me. I don't use any other Adobe products personally.
Dec 5, 2012 17:14:04 #
marcomarks wrote:
quote=russelray quote=abc1234 I installed Lightr... (show quote)
I have many Adobe products on my computer and the only one that recognizes Bridge is Photoshop. Bridge never showed up on my computer until I got Photoshop CSx.
Dec 5, 2012 17:37:54 #
marcomarks wrote:
Bridge is named what it is because it's supposed to be a "bridge" between all Adobe products. It isn't part of PhotoShop but comes with PhotoShop. Keywords in PhotoShop and everything else Bridge gets in touch with should all be compatible with, and linked together by, Bridge to every Adobe product on the computer. At least that's what they told me. I don't use any other Adobe products personally.
Adobe does not sell Bridge by itself but bundles it with Illustrator, PS, PSE and LR.
I noticed that when I updated keywords in Bridge, they did not update in LR. I guess you have to reimport the pictures. However, keywords updated appeared in LR did appear in Bridge. I think what is happening is that Bridge looks at the picture to see the keyword each time you access the file. LR imports the keywords into its data base manager and does not look at the picture to see if the keyword has changed.
Dec 5, 2012 17:39:24 #
russelray wrote:
I have many Adobe products on my computer and the only one that recognizes Bridge is Photoshop. Bridge never showed up on my computer until I got Photoshop CSx.
Illustrator, PSE and LR all have Bridge.
Dec 5, 2012 18:49:00 #
abc1234 wrote:
quote=marcomarks Bridge is named what it is becau... (show quote)
LR and Bridge handle metadata, including keywords, differently. In LR, metadata is recorded in the catalogue and is not written to the picture file unless you tell LR to do it. Bridge, on the other hand does write the metadata to the XMP header of all non-RAW files (JPEG, DNG, TIFF etc) and to an XMP sidecar file with RAW files.
If I were you, I would always start in LR and do additional pixel level editing in PS or PSE by doing an "Edit in" Photo shop or Photoshop Elements. That way when you save the file it will automatically show up in LR with all the new metadata. You don't really need Bridge to do that anymore. Certainly, going back and forth and editing in both programs without using LR as the portal via the "Edit In..." command is the source of the confusion. Do all the keywording in LR, too.
Dec 5, 2012 19:13:03 #
birdpix wrote:
If I were you, I would always start in LR and do a... (show quote)
Since I shoot raw, I have to go thru Adobe Camera Raw. Bridge, LR, PS, PSE all use ACR. It has pretty much the same controls whether called from ACR or LR even though the user interface is slightly different.
That leaves cataloging and indexing as the main differences between the two in terms of features I use. For what I do, I am not convinced that LR and its expense are worth it. I am happy with Bridge and will probably remain there. I do want to explore the data base management power of LR before I finalize my decision. I would appreciate any insights anyone may have.
Dec 5, 2012 19:36:54 #
abc1234 wrote:
Illustrator, PSE and LR all have Bridge.
russelray wrote:
I have many Adobe products on my computer and the only one that recognizes Bridge is Photoshop. Bridge never showed up on my computer until I got Photoshop CSx.
Illustrator, PSE and LR all have Bridge.
My Lightroom (4.2) doesn't.
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