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Apr 12, 2024 18:34:32   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
France, Thiers, year 2015?

What is really fascinating is that the streets and passages were built with a defensive spirit. Every short 'straight' areas were covered by archers waiting at the end of it. They had two escape routes, a cross street or simply running back to the ambush locations.

Notice the ceiling... It was made of oak planks themselves covered by a thick layer of dirt before bing covered by a more 'civilized' wooden floor. This made it hard to catch fire as well insured a relative insulation. Windows on the first floor did not exist unless they were narrow opening... Meurtrières (killing windows). There was another prosaic reason... Taxes were paid depending on the number of windows.

Feed back to improve will be appreciated.
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Red
Red...
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Blue
Blue...
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Green
Green...
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Normal
Normal...
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Original color
Original color...
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Apr 12, 2024 18:53:26   #
NMGal Loc: NE NM
 
I like the first and last.

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Apr 13, 2024 06:55:55   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Split toning? Yellow-orange for the highlights and blue-green for the darks. #1 is subtle and meant to be barely noticeable (i.e. still B&W - but still effective?) whereas #2 is less subtle and recognisable as a mixture of tints.
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Apr 13, 2024 09:31:12   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Nice shot! The toning in the first image is my favorite.

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Apr 13, 2024 10:38:16   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
I like the Normal and Original.

Stan

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Apr 13, 2024 10:45:13   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
To all: Since the comments are all about the tint (I kind of expected that) the correction is easy since on top of the B&W process there is a hue saturation layer.

Now, the input I need is more about the B&W post-processing effectiveness. Too much contrast? Not enough? Area that need dodging and burning?

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Apr 13, 2024 13:21:17   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Rongnongno wrote:
... the input I need is more about the B&W post-processing effectiveness. Too much contrast? Not enough? Area that need dodging and burning?


The contrast in the first three is just about right. You wouldn't want the tunnel part to be much darker and you wouldn't want the bright stonework to be harshly bright. The shine on the cobblestones is a nice touch and you wouldn't want to lose that by suppressing the whites or highlights too much. Having the detail in the tunnel just visible is just about right.

For some reason my exported jpeg has noticeably less contrast than the edited image I had in Lightroom. I don't know how to avoid that so I'll leave it as is. But even with weakened tonal contrast the split toning gives added colour contrast between the darks and the brights, so the loss of tonal contrast isn't as detrimental as it could have been. Even if the tonal contrast was at its limits, split toning is a way to add even more contrast to the image while avoiding unwanted effects with the brightness levels. That works with low levels of tint even to the point where it's close to being subliminal. And with higher levels of tint it can look like a monochrome where sepia or some such is the main tint.

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Apr 13, 2024 14:21:53   #
jack schade Loc: La Pine Oregon
 
Nice variety. I like them all. The last black and white is probably my favorite.

jack

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Apr 13, 2024 14:37:48   #
bonjac Loc: Santa Ynez, CA 93460
 
I didn't think showing the color version of a picture was allowed here. I really don't care one way or another but some time ago, both the B&W version and the original color version and was chastised for attempting to do so to the extent that it was rejected.

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Apr 13, 2024 18:26:09   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
bonjac wrote:
I didn't think showing the color version of a picture was allowed here. I really don't care one way or another but some time ago, both the B&W version and the original color version and was chastised for attempting to do so to the extent that it was rejected.

I reported the issue to the section admin. Let's see what he does.

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Apr 14, 2024 07:00:33   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
Rongnongno wrote:
France, Thiers, year 2015?

What is really fascinating is that the streets and passages were built with a defensive spirit. Every short 'straight' areas were covered by archers waiting at the end of it. They had two escape routes, a cross street or simply running back to the ambush locations.

Notice the ceiling... It was made of oak planks themselves covered by a thick layer of dirt before bing covered by a more 'civilized' wooden floor. This made it hard to catch fire as well insured a relative insulation. Windows on the first floor did not exist unless they were narrow opening... Meurtrières (killing windows). There was another prosaic reason... Taxes were paid depending on the number of windows.

Feed back to improve will be appreciated.
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Interesting set, thanks for posting.

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Apr 18, 2024 16:02:32   #
topcat Loc: Alameda, CA
 
Interesting set

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