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Apr 12, 2024 11:41:14   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Is there a filter I can use to add grain to B&W photos, or is high ISO the only way?

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Apr 12, 2024 11:54:01   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Why would you desire such an action?

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Apr 12, 2024 12:00:43   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
For the digital file in an editor, there are options to "add noise" and other ways. I suspect you mean in-camera, though? There are "art modes" for that

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Apr 12, 2024 12:05:49   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Why would you desire such an action?


To give the scene a feeling of grittiness. In the film days I used Ilford HP5 a lot because I liked the grain it added. I would like to see that in my B&W photos today.

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Apr 12, 2024 12:08:09   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
For the digital file in an editor, there are options to "add noise" and other ways. I suspect you mean in-camera, though? There are "art modes" for that

My Olympus has a "grainy film" filter in Art Mode. This is jpg sooc; I haven't experimented with editing or how exposure might affect the results. This was just a test for a group.

In-Camera Art Filter: grainy film by Linda Shorey, on Flickr

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Apr 12, 2024 12:13:32   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
For the digital file in an editor, there are options to "add noise" and other ways. I suspect you mean in-camera, though? There are "art modes" for that

My Olympus has a "grainy film" filter in Art Mode. This is jpg sooc; I haven't experimented with editing or how exposure might affect the results. This was just a test for a group.

In-Camera Art Filter: grainy film by Linda Shorey, on Flickr

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For the digital file in an editor, there are optio... (show quote)


Thanks Linda. Yes I would like to do it in camera, I don’t think my M11 or Z 6II have art modes.

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Apr 12, 2024 12:15:17   #
jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania
 
Mac wrote:
Is there a filter I can use to add grain to B&W photos, or is high ISO the only way?


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It depends on what editor you use. Some editors do have a grain adjustment to add grain so the shot looks more like it was shot with film. There are also plugins that will do it too. If you have the Nik Collection, the B&W Effects module offers it.

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Apr 12, 2024 12:16:15   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Mac wrote:
To give the scene a feeling of grittiness. In the film days I used Ilford HP5 a lot because I liked the grain it added. I would like to see that in my B&W photos today.


Try a classic grain film like Tri-X 400.

Working with Kodak Tri-X 400

Looking at film grain comparisons

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Apr 12, 2024 12:17:59   #
BebuLamar
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Try a classic grain film like Tri-X 400.


And you get real grain and not noise.

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Apr 12, 2024 12:18:36   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Mac wrote:
Thanks Linda. Yes I would like to do it in camera, I don’t think my M11 or Z 6II have art modes.
I would think under-exposing would be a good place to start, and high contrast light? This is going to be fun to follow!

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Apr 12, 2024 12:19:16   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
BebuLamar wrote:
And you get real grain and not noise.


See the links updated into my earlier reply.

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Apr 12, 2024 12:20:02   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
jamesl wrote:
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It depends on what editor you use. Some editors do have a grain adjustment to add grain so the shot looks more like it was shot with film. There are also plugins that will do it too. If you have the Nik Collection, the B&W Effects module offers it.


Thanks James. I would rather do it in camera because I don’t like to spend much time doing PP. Maybe that’s my only choice.

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Apr 12, 2024 12:23:52   #
BebuLamar
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
See the links updated into my earlier reply.


I used Tri-X back when I was in the photgraphy class because that what the teacher told to use. It's OK but too grainny for my taste. Much grainnier than the Plus X I used to use as a kid (when I was a kid Plus X was the only film I could afford, Tri-X was too expensive).
In fact when I need to take pictures in low light I use the digital as the noise of digital is much less at very high ISO than film.

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Apr 12, 2024 12:33:17   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I used Tri-X back when I was in the photgraphy class because that what the teacher told to use. It's OK but too grainny for my taste. Much grainnier than the Plus X I used to use as a kid (when I was a kid Plus X was the only film I could afford, Tri-X was too expensive).
In fact when I need to take pictures in low light I use the digital as the noise of digital is much less at very high ISO than film.


My own tastes have changed a bit now after shooting several rolls of Tri-X over the past few years. I know I still prefer 'cleaner' B&W films, but I've learned to incorporate (appreciate) a classic cubic grain in certain genres captured in B&W. To our OP, I also prefer a 'real' film grain over anything added into a digital conversion.

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Apr 12, 2024 13:29:37   #
Orphoto Loc: Oregon
 
Adobe Camera Raw has the ability to add a grain effect to images, whether color or monochrome. That means Lightroom can also do it.

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