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Apr 11, 2024 12:45:26   #
cindo51
 
Looking for experiences, and feedback on a few photos.











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Apr 11, 2024 12:55:55   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
What's "ICM"?

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Apr 11, 2024 14:08:28   #
cindo51
 
ICM stands for Intentional Camera Movement. I had been doing it for years, but I just referred to my pictures as my 'blur' photos. (A couple of years ago I saw ads for an online photography course specializing in ICM, so I thought I would check it out! Didn't know that I had been doing it !). You can either move the camera while you take your picture, or push or pull your lens in as you push down the shutter. I've done many of each...For me, I had to take quite a few before I could get one that worked... it's fun, challenging, and I find that it is a creative approach that differs.

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Apr 11, 2024 14:19:52   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
cindo51 wrote:
ICM stands for Intentional Camera Movement. I had been doing it for years, but I just referred to my pictures as my 'blur' photos. (A couple of years ago I saw ads for an online photography course specializing in ICM, so I thought I would check it out! Didn't know that I had been doing it !). You can either move the camera while you take your picture, or push or pull your lens in as you push down the shutter. I've done many of each...For me, I had to take quite a few before I could get one that worked... it's fun, challenging, and I find that it is a creative approach that differs.
ICM stands for Intentional Camera Movement. I had ... (show quote)

Thanks.
I never called it ICM, I use "intentional camera movement".....

Would UCM be unintentional camera movement?

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Apr 11, 2024 14:29:11   #
cindo51
 
Longshadow wrote:
Thanks.
I never called it ICM, I use "intentional camera movement".....

Would UCM be unintentional camera movement?


Ha! I have plenty of examples of UCM as well!

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Apr 11, 2024 14:30:49   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
cindo51 wrote:
Ha! I have plenty of examples of UCM as well!


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Apr 11, 2024 14:52:55   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
Longshadow wrote:
What's "ICM"?


I create messes?

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Apr 11, 2024 15:37:40   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
Generally speaking, ICM doesn't typically 'do' much for me, very possibly because though most tend to be fairly subtle, 'the effect' is so obviously an identifiable effect that it seems somehow predictable and is therefore slightly trite. That is not to say, however, that I can't or haven't appreciated the works of some who ICM well. (There is, for instance, a woman in town who's been doing ICM's for years, but having never actually met her, I know nothing about her background or training much less how she might describe or explain her intent were we to meet and speak together. Regardless, it's abundantly clear that she has a keen awareness of composition and color theory (and rather more, I'd wager) --and these are qualities I genuinely respect-- and I've yet to see a work of hers that I didn't find it excellent.) In any event, for me, despite having done a few, on neither the shooting side nor on the processing side has my interest been sufficiently piqued that I'd devote more time or effort toward continuing.

Multiple exposures, on the other hand, include processes that interest me greatly. They do so for their quasi-abstract/graphic qualities, and that is something that's interested me for a great many years. Why that may be exactly, I do not know, but I know that I'd been doing so (been seeing/portraying the 'abstract') early on in my paint or pen or canvas or paper days or now in this photography phase, whether that appear 'realistic' or otherwise. Did some in-camera multiple exposure work when my main rig would've been large format, and more recently (these past months) I've returned to that via what some call the 'Pep Ventosa' effect, which I've adopted and adapted and tried to 'make my own' without it appearing derivitive or merely an 'effect that was done but lacks an ostensible purpose'.

That, briefly, is my experience. I'd very much like to comment on the images you posted, but I'd rather hear (read) what YOU might have say about them. Not your processes, per se; those I can see. Instead, I'd rather hear (read) what your (aesthetic?) intent might be.

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Apr 11, 2024 16:46:44   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
cahale wrote:
I create messes?


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Apr 11, 2024 16:52:25   #
cindo51
 
cahale wrote:
I create messes?


That's valid!

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Apr 11, 2024 17:04:16   #
cindo51
 
Cany143 wrote:
Generally speaking, ICM doesn't typically 'do' much for me, very possibly because though most tend to be fairly subtle, 'the effect' is so obviously an identifiable effect that it seems somehow predictable and is therefore slightly trite. That is not to say, however, that I can't or haven't appreciated the works of some who ICM well. (There is, for instance, a woman in town who's been doing ICM's for years, but having never actually met her, I know nothing about her background or training much less how she might describe or explain her intent were we to meet and speak together. Regardless, it's abundantly clear that she has a keen awareness of composition and color theory (and rather more, I'd wager) --and these are qualities I genuinely respect-- and I've yet to see a work of hers that I didn't find it excellent.) In any event, for me, despite having done a few, on neither the shooting side nor on the processing side has my interest been sufficiently piqued that I'd devote more time or effort toward continuing.

Multiple exposures, on the other hand, include processes that interest me greatly. They do so for their quasi-abstract/graphic qualities, and that is something that's interested me for a great many years. Why that may be exactly, I do not know, but I know that I'd been doing so (been seeing/portraying the 'abstract') early on in my paint or pen or canvas or paper days or now in this photography phase, whether that appear 'realistic' or otherwise. Did some in-camera multiple exposure work when my main rig would've been large format, and more recently (these past months) I've returned to that via what some call the 'Pep Ventosa' effect, which I've adopted and adapted and tried to 'make my own' without it appearing derivitive or merely an 'effect that was done but lacks an ostensible purpose'.

That, briefly, is my experience. I'd very much like to comment on the images you posted, but I'd rather hear (read) what YOU might have say about them. Not your processes, per se; those I can see. Instead, I'd rather hear (read) what your (aesthetic?) intent might be.
Generally speaking, ICM doesn't typically 'do' muc... (show quote)


The multiple exposure shots I do seem to present themselves to me different places and different times. Certain things have to be in unison, despite the disparity in the subject of each exposure. The lighting, the connection I find,
it is so much serendipity. For example, perhaps I see the first buds of spring in my yard, and the bag of potting soil and the gardening tools against a tree stump, and the wall of the forsythias behind the house... they seem to be connected at this very moment so I do just that! Connect them... I don't know if that makes any sense to you...?

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Apr 11, 2024 17:13:46   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
cindo51 wrote:
The multiple exposure shots I do seem to present themselves to me different places and different times. Certain things have to be in unison, despite the disparity in the subject of each exposure. The lighting, the connection I find,
it is so much serendipity. For example, perhaps I see the first buds of spring in my yard, and the bag of potting soil and the gardening tools against a tree stump, and the wall of the forsythias behind the house... they seem to be connected at this very moment so I do just that! Connect them... I don't know if that makes any sense to you...?
The multiple exposure shots I do seem to present t... (show quote)


Yes. What you said makes sense. The part about 'certain things have to be in unison' in particular.

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Apr 11, 2024 22:00:49   #
cindo51
 
Cany143 wrote:
Yes. What you said makes sense. The part about 'certain things have to be in unison' in particular.


I’m glad I was able to communicate that, so much goes on as an instinct, it’s sometimes hard to articulate!

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Apr 12, 2024 07:38:33   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
Longshadow wrote:
Thanks.
I never called it ICM, I use "intentional camera movement".....

Would UCM be unintentional camera movement?


UCM= I might be an expert at that! What ever that is.

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Apr 12, 2024 07:41:33   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
I've tried a couple of ICM & still do once in a while whith something like Phragmite on a windy day, Nothing as good as
yours. The double exposures work great. Very nice work.

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