Energy Solutions... apart from Politics. Which do you prefer?
Apr 10, 2024 13:02:06 #
Politics generally takes a great idea and F's it up? Sort of a Horse designed by committee becomes a Camel. As long as it gets us there, I suppose it'll do for now.
Wasn't it during the last COLD spelled that the general population learned that EVs are not very useful during long days of such cold temps?
Wasn't it during the last COLD spelled that the general population learned that EVs are not very useful during long days of such cold temps?
Apr 10, 2024 14:23:47 #
Until there's a proven replacement technology, it seems like hybrids are the next logical step away from internal combustion engines. Personally, I would like to see hydrogen technology as the logical final step.
While my vehicle was in the shop for repair, I got to drive a Toyota hybrid SUV. Very nice vehicle, and the t***sition between gas and electric was seamless. The only way I could tell was when the signals cued. I may have to consider hybrid on my next lease cycle.
While my vehicle was in the shop for repair, I got to drive a Toyota hybrid SUV. Very nice vehicle, and the t***sition between gas and electric was seamless. The only way I could tell was when the signals cued. I may have to consider hybrid on my next lease cycle.
Apr 10, 2024 14:45:31 #
pendennis wrote:
Until there's a proven replacement technology, it seems like hybrids are the next logical step away from internal combustion engines. Personally, I would like to see hydrogen technology as the logical final step.
While my vehicle was in the shop for repair, I got to drive a Toyota hybrid SUV. Very nice vehicle, and the t***sition between gas and electric was seamless. The only way I could tell was when the signals cued. I may have to consider hybrid on my next lease cycle.
While my vehicle was in the shop for repair, I got to drive a Toyota hybrid SUV. Very nice vehicle, and the t***sition between gas and electric was seamless. The only way I could tell was when the signals cued. I may have to consider hybrid on my next lease cycle.
As noted time and time . The public decides what they wan. Right now ev sales have slowed and hybrids are up
But it’s nice to have a choice isn’t it ?
Apr 10, 2024 15:14:42 #
If we were serious about the environment, we'd put our money in hydrogen.
It's much more efficient than gasoline and doesn't present the problems that lithium batteries do.
It's much more efficient than gasoline and doesn't present the problems that lithium batteries do.
Apr 10, 2024 21:19:54 #
DennyT wrote:
As noted time and time . The public decides what they wan. Right now ev sales have slowed and hybrids are up
But it’s nice to have a choice isn’t it ?
But it’s nice to have a choice isn’t it ?
The public, given a chance to fully test, might go more for hybrids, than pure EV. The other thing is the infrastructure. EV's are terribly burdensome on the electrical grid. In addition, they do far more damage to the highways. No one has yet figured out how EV's can "pay their fair share". Even hydrogen has its drawbacks. Hydrogen needs far more protection in the fuel tank area, but the solution is likely to be geared toward fuel cells.
The solution is to let the market work out the solution.
Apr 11, 2024 13:11:03 #
pendennis wrote:
Until there's a proven replacement technology, it seems like hybrids are the next logical step away from internal combustion engines. Personally, I would like to see hydrogen technology as the logical final step.
While my vehicle was in the shop for repair, I got to drive a Toyota hybrid SUV. Very nice vehicle, and the t***sition between gas and electric was seamless. The only way I could tell was when the signals cued. I may have to consider hybrid on my next lease cycle.
While my vehicle was in the shop for repair, I got to drive a Toyota hybrid SUV. Very nice vehicle, and the t***sition between gas and electric was seamless. The only way I could tell was when the signals cued. I may have to consider hybrid on my next lease cycle.
Apr 11, 2024 13:12:11 #
pendennis wrote:
Until there's a proven replacement technology, it seems like hybrids are the next logical step away from internal combustion engines. Personally, I would like to see hydrogen technology as the logical final step.
While my vehicle was in the shop for repair, I got to drive a Toyota hybrid SUV. Very nice vehicle, and the t***sition between gas and electric was seamless. The only way I could tell was when the signals cued. I may have to consider hybrid on my next lease cycle.
While my vehicle was in the shop for repair, I got to drive a Toyota hybrid SUV. Very nice vehicle, and the t***sition between gas and electric was seamless. The only way I could tell was when the signals cued. I may have to consider hybrid on my next lease cycle.
From Wikipedia: "As of 2022, more than 95% of global hydrogen production is sourced from fossil gas and coal without carbon abatement."
Apr 11, 2024 14:39:23 #
rcarol wrote:
From Wikipedia: "As of 2022, more than 95% of global hydrogen production is sourced from fossil gas and coal without carbon abatement."
There are a number of ways besides extracting from f****l f**ls. Thermochemical, photolytic and biological processes are three, and would likely become more economical as volume requirements increase.
None of these are going to reach critical mass in the near term, so traditional fossil will be around for a long time.
Apr 11, 2024 15:30:51 #
pendennis wrote:
There are a number of ways besides extracting from f****l f**ls. Thermochemical, photolytic and biological processes are three, and would likely become more economical as volume requirements increase.
None of these are going to reach critical mass in the near term, straditional fossil will be around for a long time.
None of these are going to reach critical mass in the near term, straditional fossil will be around for a long time.
The point I was trying to make is that producing hydrogen requires significant petroleum consumption.
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