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Must Israel k**l all the Palestinians to get a one state solution?
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Apr 8, 2024 00:22:23   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
Must Israel k**l all the Palestinians to get a one state solution?

Most internet bloggers seem vague on the subject, but they seem open to the suggestion.

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Apr 8, 2024 07:27:28   #
Caribou Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
Just as there seems to be no solution to the entire 75 years-long Arab-Israeli animosity, there seems to be no clean, clear answer to this. They can't eliminate all Palestinians. It's not possible and they shouldn't try. But they are creating more Palestinian hatred every day. Those children being victimized will remember this. However, they won't blame Hamas for starting a stupid armed conflict with a much better armed Israel. They will blame Israel and the cycle will start again.

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Apr 8, 2024 09:22:36   #
pendennis
 
I've seen a movie titled "The Kingdom". Premise is a bomb planted by Saudi terrorists in Riyadh followed by random k*****gs at the American compound by terrorists dressed as Saudi police; large loss of life including a number of Americans. Four FBI agents go "rogue", heading to Iraq to investigate the death of a fellow agent. In the end, there's a huge shoot-out, k*****g the bad guys.

In the conversation at the end, Jason Bateman's character asks Jamie Foxx what he said to get Jennifer Garner to stop crying. Foxx replied,
Quote:
I told her we were gonna k**l 'em all.
At the same instant, a young Saudi was asked by his mother what his grandfather said before he died of his wounds.
Quote:
Don't fear them, my child. We are going to k**l them all.


This is the end game. There will be peace when someone wins.

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Apr 8, 2024 09:25:32   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
Caribou wrote:
They can't eliminate all Palestinians. It's not possible and they shouldn't try.


How can Israel obtain their goal of a one state solution?

It would appear that adjacent countries don't wany any more Palestinians and almost half of the Palestinians still support Hamas. It's hard to understand how anyone could support Hamas, who butchered people and appeared to be pure evil.

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Apr 8, 2024 09:55:53   #
pendennis
 
travelwp wrote:
How can Israel obtain their goal of a one state solution?

It would appear that adjacent countries don't wany any more Palestinians and almost half of the Palestinians still support Hamas. It's hard to understand how anyone could support Hamas, who butchered people and appeared to be pure evil.


Hamas' aid and support flows directly, or indirectly, through Iran. First thing, shut down Iran's money supply - oil exports. No oil revenue, no terrorism. If Iranians starve, too bad.

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Apr 8, 2024 10:20:15   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
pendennis wrote:
Hamas' aid and support flows directly, or indirectly, through Iran. First thing, shut down Iran's money supply - oil exports. No oil revenue, no terrorism. If Iranians starve, too bad.


So how do we do that when Joe Biden releases $6 billion back to Iran? What an i***t he is.

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Apr 8, 2024 10:28:47   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Racmanaz wrote:
So how do we do that when Joe Biden releases $6 billion back to Iran? What an i***t he is.


The Left has been supporting Iran for years. Yes POS Biden and his supporters are i***ts for ever thinking Iran and America can be friends. Yet they continue supporting Iran in every way begging for Iran to like America. It ain't gonna happen.

Dennis

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Apr 8, 2024 10:29:23   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
pendennis wrote:
First thing, shut down Iran's money supply - oil exports. No oil revenue, no terrorism.


It would appear that in the US, "dril, drill, drill" will solve that.

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Apr 8, 2024 10:30:36   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
travelwp wrote:
It would appear that in the US, "dril, drill, drill" will solve that.


Yes but the answer from the Left is buy, buy, buy from other countries.

Dennis

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Apr 8, 2024 10:39:52   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
dennis2146 wrote:
The Left has been supporting Iran for years. Yes POS Biden and his supporters are i***ts for ever thinking Iran and America can be friends. Yet they continue supporting Iran in every way begging for Iran to like America. It ain't gonna happen.

Dennis


Devin Connolly is a friend of MIR who used to be a Tour Manager and led travelers on journeys to many countries, including Iran, a land she loves.

To say that relations between Americans and Iranians are often misunderstood would be putting it mildly. So many Americans are convinced that Iranians h**e us that they react with skepticism when I say that, in my experience, the exact opposite is true. Iranians are very welcoming of foreigners, especially Americans (notice that I didn’t say “even Americans”).

https://www.mircorp.com/how-do-iranians-really-feel-about-americans/

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Apr 8, 2024 10:44:32   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Yes but the answer from the Left is buy, buy, buy from other countries.

Dennis



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Apr 8, 2024 10:46:49   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Kraken wrote:
Devin Connolly is a friend of MIR who used to be a Tour Manager and led travelers on journeys to many countries, including Iran, a land she loves.

To say that relations between Americans and Iranians are often misunderstood would be putting it mildly. So many Americans are convinced that Iranians h**e us that they react with skepticism when I say that, in my experience, the exact opposite is true. Iranians are very welcoming of foreigners, especially Americans (notice that I didn’t say “even Americans”).

https://www.mircorp.com/how-do-iranians-really-feel-about-americans/
Devin Connolly is a friend of MIR who used to be a... (show quote)


For once we might even agree. I have a couple of friends who are Iranian and are now living in America. One came here just before the Shah was thrown out years ago. She tells me Iran was once very friendly to America, women went to the beautiful beaches wearing bikini bathing suits and so on. The Shah of Iran was well into hunting and invited numerous Americans to hunt sheep in Iran. Yes it was a great country and its people got along with Americans. All true.

BUT then the religious o*******w came. The LEADERS of Iran, the Mullahs, decided to throw their own people back on 800 years into the dark ages. The religious leaders took over and decided to h**e America and have pushed that narrative of h**e ever since.

But back to what I was saying. The people of Iran may very well love Americans and want to live the Western ways but that isn't going to happen is it while the LEADERS of Iran dominate the people. It isn't the people of Iran our Left Wing leaning Socialist government is sucking up to but the religious leaders who DO h**e America and have threatened to blow us off the planet with nuclear bombs. How do you on the Left forget that part. The people of Iran have no say in the matter do they?

Dennis

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Apr 8, 2024 10:52:53   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Caribou wrote:
Just as there seems to be no solution to the entire 75 years-long Arab-Israeli animosity, there seems to be no clean, clear answer to this. They can't eliminate all Palestinians. It's not possible and they shouldn't try. But they are creating more Palestinian hatred every day. Those children being victimized will remember this. However, they won't blame Hamas for starting a stupid armed conflict with a much better armed Israel. They will blame Israel and the cycle will start again.


The answer is simple. - a two state solution negotiated fairly between sides with none of the one sidedness of the last. One that is fair to both side and lets people ( Israeli and Palestinian) live where they want .

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Apr 8, 2024 10:56:20   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
The answer is simple. - a two state solution negotiated fairly between sides with none of the one sidedness of the last. One that is fair to both side and lets people ( Israeli and Palestinian) live where they want .


Sounds wonderful. Any ideas about how to stop Palestinian Hamas from attacking and literally butchering Israelis as happened back on October 7th. Any ideas about why nobody is forcing Hamas to release hostages taken that day and are still being held against their will? Seems as if those are 2 major concerns held by the Israelis.

Dennis

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Apr 8, 2024 11:04:39   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Sounds wonderful. Any ideas about how to stop Palestinian Hamas from attacking and literally butchering Israelis as happened back on October 7th. Any ideas about why nobody is forcing Hamas to release hostages taken that day and are still being held against their will? Seems as if those are 2 major concerns held by the Israelis.

Dennis


Any idea why innocent Palestinians are jailed in Israel without charges or trials for years .

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/21/more-than-8000-palestinians-in-israeli-jails-rights-groups-say

https://apnews.com/article/palestinian-boys-prison-west-bank-israel-war-d0f73d0a1581749894ffc0e078b4b160

Both sides. Must release all hostages and prisoners !!!

Even thousands of Israelis are protesting Netanyahu.

“”” Tens of thousands of Israelis have rallied against Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu, demanding a Gaza hostage deal.
“””



The Israeli people havd already recognizy that Netanyahu is using the “ hostages “ as an excuse for the taking of land not Israel’s . You should also .

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68754109

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