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Mar 28, 2024 10:50:07   #
MS. DONNA Loc: NEW SMYRNA BEACH FL
 
hello do yall run denosie before you process your images or do you edit them then run through denoise?

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Mar 28, 2024 10:51:27   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
MS. DONNA wrote:
hello do yall run denoise before you process your images or do you edit them then run through denoise?

Depends on whom you ask.

There are two main types of noise. One needs to be removed before anything: Color noise.
Luminosity noise? Depends.

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Mar 28, 2024 11:18:23   #
one_eyed_pete Loc: Colonie NY
 
MS. DONNA wrote:
hello do yall run denosie before you process your images or do you edit them then run through denoise?


Does depend on who you ask. I've done it both ways. I've had better success doing denoise and sharpening last because sometimes you can introduce some noise during editing.

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Mar 28, 2024 12:06:01   #
Toment Loc: FL, IL
 
Denoise first

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Mar 28, 2024 12:08:34   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
MS. DONNA wrote:
hello do yall run denosie before you process your images or do you edit them then run through denoise?


Always go to the source if possible:
For Topaz workflow - https://topazlabs.com/the-ultimate-workflow-for-topaz-labs-ai-software/
For Topaz Learning Center - https://www.topazlabs.com/learn?mc_cid=9289005635&mc_eid=c9be7297b0
Best Wishes,
JimmyT Sends

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Mar 28, 2024 13:41:14   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Jimmy T wrote:
Always go to the source if possible:
For Topaz workflow - https://topazlabs.com/the-ultimate-workflow-for-topaz-labs-ai-software/
For Topaz Learning Center - https://www.topazlabs.com/learn?mc_cid=9289005635&mc_eid=c9be7297b0
Best Wishes,
JimmyT Sends

Yes, I follow their recommendation(s), per:

Topaz Workflow:
1: JPEG to RAW AI (not necessary if you shoot in RAW)
2: DeNoise AI
3: Sharpen AI
4: Mask AI
5: Adjust AI
6: Topaz Studio 2
7: Gigapixel AI


However, in my case 4: thru 6: are done in Lightroom/Photoshop.

bwa

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Mar 28, 2024 13:49:45   #
Amadeus Loc: New York
 
Don’t know if I’m right or wrong but I process my raw file the way I want it then the first thing I do with the jpg is DeNoise. That’s mainly because I usually shoot at high ISO’s and noise is my primary concern. I have tried using DeNoise on the raw file but it takes much longer and I don’t see an appreciable difference.

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Mar 28, 2024 13:53:03   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
bwana wrote:
Yes, I follow their recommendation(s), per:

Topaz Workflow:
1: JPEG to RAW AI (not necessary if you shoot in RAW)
2: DeNoise AI
3: Sharpen AI
4: Mask AI
5: Adjust AI
6: Topaz Studio 2
7: Gigapixel AI


However, in my case 4: thru 6: are done in Lightroom/Photoshop.

bwa

Seems like we need better cameras that wouldn't require all that work.

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Mar 28, 2024 15:53:48   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Longshadow wrote:
Seems like we need better cameras that wouldn't require all that work.

We're getting there. Just take a look at camera evolution since electronic sensors were first introduced.

But the more cameras evolve the further people try pushing them! At one point I would never have even considered shooting at ISO12800++ (assuming the camera would even give me that option), now I shoot at ISO12800++ as required with reasonable results. And I can still remember pushing ASA 400 film to the max extent to pull out something I'd shot in almost the dark.

bwa

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Mar 28, 2024 18:12:27   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
bwana wrote:
Yes, I follow their recommendation(s), per:

Topaz Workflow:
1: JPEG to RAW AI (not necessary if you shoot in RAW)
2: DeNoise AI
3: Sharpen AI
4: Mask AI
5: Adjust AI
6: Topaz Studio 2
7: Gigapixel AI


However, in my case 4: thru 6: are done in Lightroom/Photoshop.

bwa


Your take on this makes sense to me, except that I now use Topaz Photo AI which does items 1-3 needed in their proper order.
Then I use Topaz Studio 1 & 2 to prettify the lily if needed.
Finally, I use PhotoScape X to make collages, Edit, Cut-Out, Batch* (processing), Create GIF, Print, and (Many other tools.
*Batch - Crop, Resize, Color, Filter, Film, Light, Insert, Curves, Frames.
Best Wishes,
JimmyT Sends

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Mar 28, 2024 18:19:15   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
Jimmy T wrote:
Your take on this makes sense to me, except that I now use Topaz Photo AI which does items 1-3 needed in their proper order.
Then I use Topaz Studio 1 & 2 to prettify the lily if needed.
Finally, I use PhotoScape X to make collages, Edit, Cut-Out, Batch* (processing), Create GIF, Print, and (Many other tools.
*Batch - Crop, Resize, Color, Filter, Film, Light, Insert, Curves, Frames.
Best Wishes,
JimmyT Sends
Your take on this makes sense to me, except that I... (show quote)

I also use Photo AI for minor changes, although the full versions of DeNoise and Sharpen offer more options and still do a better job.

bwa

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Mar 28, 2024 20:14:03   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
bwana wrote:
I also use Photo AI for minor changes, although the full versions of DeNoise and Sharpen offer more options and still do a better job.

bwa


I like Topaz Photo AI because I can load 100+ images at a time, and let them process in default mode while I do "other things".
Then go back and attend to the pics which didn't come out to my satisfaction. It is a time saver for my application.
I have seen some wonderful work here on UHH using PS/LR but Topaz Photo AI does great for me, especially if I need to adjustments the settings.
I also have the other Topaz Products if I need them.
Best Wishes,
JimmyT Sends

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Mar 29, 2024 05:51:58   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Longshadow wrote:
Seems like we need better cameras that wouldn't require all that work.


Better Cameras are expensive, heavy, and unnecessary in the modern AI world. Worse yet, they are at home when a photo opportunity presents itself; the 1" sensor Superzoom is there, in a pocket, ready and set to auto or C-1 [Kodak sweet 16 setting] for the quick fleeting momentary event.

Sequence... fine as bwana suggested, but one may want to do denoise a second time after the other preliminary processes. Gigapixel and Photo AI are excellent... if I then go back to make an adjustment, my computer is slow at processing the now large upsized photo file.

Humm, perhaps Tesla Cybertruck have a plugin to allow automated photo perfection while making a left turn in heavy traffic.

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Mar 29, 2024 09:09:16   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
MS. DONNA wrote:
hello do yall run denosie before you process your images or do you edit them then run through denoise?


I generally do it last, but not always.

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Mar 30, 2024 16:15:26   #
JeffDavidson Loc: Originally Detroit Now Los Angeles
 
In general DeNoise first or you post process the noise also.

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