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Mar 29, 2024 14:29:13   #
MJPerini
 
Even the best ND filters are generally not made to block UV & IR because it is not necessary for regular photography.
The UV & IR can damage eyes and cameras.
Canon published a very helpful guide about two weeks ago, which is where I read the above.
I do not have a link, but it should be easy enough to find
They emphasized that to be safe, it needs to be a Solar Filter.
I am NOT an expert and just passing along what I read in an excellent article.
This is likely to be the most viewed Eclipse in Human history, the first priority should be keeping people and equipment safe.
Good Luck

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Mar 29, 2024 14:48:39   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
If you point your camera without a filter you MAY damage sensor. No warranty coverage

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Mar 29, 2024 15:29:16   #
bob100
 
Thank you!

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Mar 29, 2024 17:12:58   #
MJPerini
 
When it comes to your eyes, why on earth would you want to 'make do' with something you own but was not designed for solar levels of UV & IR when KNOWN SAFE Ones are available and inexpensive.
The other issue is getting one that fits securely and cannot be knocked ajar by accident. For example a rectangular welder's glass.
Just be safe

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Mar 29, 2024 17:35:55   #
bob100
 
Thank you. I agree.

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Mar 29, 2024 18:41:09   #
Canisdirus
 
If you are using a mirrorless camera....your eyes cannot be affected by the sun...no matter what filter you have on.

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Mar 29, 2024 18:41:16   #
JBRIII
 
I am not familiar with the specific filter, but bought two such filter from Amazon for the 2017 eclipse. I did not find the image quality to be as good as using Baader solar film.

An interesting side, in 2017 there was a lot of controversy about filter certification. Turns out the film used is certified, not the glasses using it, etc. Amazon told everyone to throw out everything they had sold and returned the money. I ended up with a lot of great filters for free!

Camera sensors from my experience are pretty tough, but all the heat generated by using the wrong filter could certainly damage other components. People have literally set telescopes on fire by leaving one without a filter and having v the sun move into view. I had to clean a telescope mirror and even not focused glancing sunlight produce quite the warming effect.

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Mar 29, 2024 20:40:20   #
bob100
 
JBRIII wrote:
I am not familiar with the specific filter, but bought two such filter from Amazon for the 2017 eclipse. I did not find the image quality to be as good as using Baader solar film.

An interesting side, in 2017 there was a lot of controversy about filter certification. Turns out the film used is certified, not the glasses using it, etc. Amazon told everyone to throw out everything they had sold and returned the money. I ended up with a lot of great filters for free!

Camera sensors from my experience are pretty tough, but all the heat generated by using the wrong filter could certainly damage other components. People have literally set telescopes on fire by leaving one without a filter and having v the sun move into view. I had to clean a telescope mirror and even not focused glancing sunlight produce quite the warming effect.
I am not familiar with the specific filter, but bo... (show quote)

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Mar 29, 2024 20:40:35   #
bob100
 
Thank you.

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Mar 29, 2024 21:44:18   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
JBRIII wrote:
I am not familiar with the specific filter, but bought two such filter from Amazon for the 2017 eclipse. I did not find the image quality to be as good as using Baader solar film.

An interesting side, in 2017 there was a lot of controversy about filter certification. Turns out the film used is certified, not the glasses using it, etc. Amazon told everyone to throw out everything they had sold and returned the money. I ended up with a lot of great filters for free!

Camera sensors from my experience are pretty tough, but all the heat generated by using the wrong filter could certainly damage other components. People have literally set telescopes on fire by leaving one without a filter and having v the sun move into view. I had to clean a telescope mirror and even not focused glancing sunlight produce quite the warming effect.
I am not familiar with the specific filter, but bo... (show quote)

I was on phone with Canon today and asked him about unfiltered eclipse photos and he said could damage sensor and NO warranty, guess same for cell phones

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Mar 29, 2024 22:08:18   #
bob100
 
Thanks!

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Mar 30, 2024 10:58:35   #
JBRIII
 
Sidwalkastronomy wrote:
I was on phone with Canon today and asked him about unfiltered eclipse photos and he said could damage sensor and NO warranty, guess same for cell phones


I have done quick single shots without any issues, but I would never shoot for any length of time without a filter, I agree that shooting the entire eclipse that way would damage things, it might even melt a sensor.
Sorry if I wasn't clear.

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Mar 30, 2024 11:57:19   #
bob100
 
Thank you.

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Mar 30, 2024 18:30:14   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
JBRIII wrote:
I have done quick single shots without any issues, but I would never shoot for any length of time without a filter, I agree that shooting the entire eclipse that way would damage things, it might even melt a sensor.
Sorry if I wasn't clear.


As they say it's not if you're going to blow your sensor but when. Spoke to Canon this week and he said they had a lot of cameras returned aftet last eclipse and it's NOT under warranty. It's your camera so your choice
Solar filters are cheap compared sensor repair

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Mar 30, 2024 18:33:26   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
Canisdirus wrote:
If you are using a mirrorless camera....your eyes cannot be affected by the sun...no matter what filter you have on.


How are you viewing the image?
Even with high end telescopes you must filter
the sun light before light enters the optical pathway.

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