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Mar 3, 2024 13:20:40   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Bill_de wrote:
How many pages will be dedicated to this info from 2015?

Could the rules possibly have changed since then?

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Maybe the people posting weren't members in 2015.....
But it's not in my interest to check that, or if a subject was discussed prior.
Or get upset about many people discussing it again.
I would NEVER expect someone to check if a subject has been posted prior before making their post.

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Mar 3, 2024 13:27:39   #
srt101fan
 
Bill_de wrote:
How many pages will be dedicated to this info from 2015?

Could the rules possibly have changed since then?

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And the rules are easy to understand. I don't understand why so many folks are having trouble understanding them....

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Mar 3, 2024 13:29:20   #
RKastner Loc: Davenport, FL
 
Maybe I don't understand what the metadata is going to tell them...but would they really be able to tell whether the image was shot in JPEG or if it was shot in RAW and processed, say in LR or PS, and sent to them as a JPEG file.

Also....while this was in 2015, has Reuters come out to say now that they are going to authenticate that any images that they publish aren't AI? If not, then they're just hypocrites.

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Mar 3, 2024 13:29:47   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Longshadow wrote:
Maybe the people posting weren't members in 2015.....
But it's not in my interest to check that, or if a subject was discussed prior.
Or get upset about many people discussing it again.
I would NEVER expect someone to check if a subject has been posted prior before making their post.

It's not that the topic was posted on UHH in 2015 (was it?)
The point is that Reuters issued this rule in 2015. It's nothing new. And might have changed since then.

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Mar 3, 2024 13:33:24   #
camerapapi Loc: Miami, Fl.
 
I am sure the majority here are not professional photographers. For a majority of us only RAW data shines but for a news agency speed on reporting the news is paramount. It is not the same a processed JPEG from a RAW data than a JPEG straight off the camera. I believe that the news agency is trying to get the images fast avoiding the manipulation that is done to a RAW data....and the associated delays.

I shoot both types of files depending on the circumstances. Modern JPEG files have been improved to give us today excellent images and I have several of them which to my eyes look spectacular. It is true that RAW data is flexible and with its 12, 14 or 16 bits of information we can manipulate it knowing there will not be sudden changes of colors, banding or other artifacts. I want to emphasize again that modern JPEGs are better than ever and although some over here believe those files can be manipulated as if there is no tomorrow I totally disagree, the less manipulation the better for a JPEG.

I occasionally shoot wildlife, I occasionally shoot street photography but when I have done it I have gone with JPEG. I keep on saying that modern JPEG files are of excellent quality, if we manipulate RAW data we will end converting to JPEG and lots of data will be lost, no matter what.
Software engineers are not stupid and news agency are not either. I still believe there is a reason why a JPEG is not only the universal file but it is the primary file in our cameras when we buy them. I can see a significant difference between JPEG files from around 2001 and those of today. It all seems to indicate to me that software engineers keep on working to extract from our cameras the best images we can achieve.

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Mar 3, 2024 13:51:21   #
nealbralley Loc: Kansas
 
When it comes to photo journalism JPEG is king. The files are small, and the photographer can transmit them nearly instantly. As others have mentioned, reduces alterations which might reduce the credibility of the publications.

Also, many professional photo journalists use cameras having minimal megapixels. Really blows the high megapixel camera arguments right out of the water!

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Mar 3, 2024 13:55:04   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
LittleRed wrote:
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LittleRed (Ron)


On internet, every is new to the reader, especially if said reader does not pay attention to the date of publication...

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Mar 3, 2024 13:55:05   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Longshadow wrote:
Maybe the people posting weren't members in 2015.....
But it's not in my interest to check that, or if a subject was discussed prior.
Or get upset about many people discussing it again.
I would NEVER expect someone to check if a subject has been posted prior before making their post.


Missed the point again!

Keep on posting

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Mar 3, 2024 14:02:51   #
gouldopfl
 
Jpeg only has a portion of the information to do post processing. The jpeg files are camera specific as they are processed in camera and only can get some partial edits

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Mar 3, 2024 14:10:43   #
TheShoe Loc: Lacey, WA
 
Longshadow wrote:
... it appears that they want the original JPEG from the camera, unprocessed.


Did you intend the irony? The jpeg from the cameras is not unprocessed. The camera has processed the raw image according to the camera settings, either default or specified by the shooter. In either case, the image will have been processed. If they are going to be picky about it, they should require that raw images be provided. That would give them complete control over the processing of the image.

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Mar 3, 2024 14:17:32   #
BebuLamar
 
TheShoe wrote:
Did you intend the irony? The jpeg from the cameras is not unprocessed. The camera has processed the raw image according to the camera settings, either default or specified by the shooter. In either case, the image will have been processed. If they are going to be picky about it, they should require that raw images be provided. That would give them complete control over the processing of the image.


I think they should demand the raw file only.

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Mar 3, 2024 14:17:49   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
nealbralley wrote:
When it comes to photo journalism JPEG is king. The files are small, and the photographer can transmit them nearly instantly. As others have mentioned, reduces alterations which might reduce the credibility of the publications.

Also, many professional photo journalists use cameras having minimal megapixels. Really blows the high megapixel camera arguments right out of the water!


Newspapers print at low resolution. The Internet is a low resolution medium most of the time. More than 16 MP is just a waste for the vast majority of news coverage.

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Mar 3, 2024 14:44:04   #
MJPerini
 
This is old news, and if you think about it, it (mostly) makes sense.
There are already rules in place at all the wire services about limited 'processing' of News Photographs.
They do not care if you shoot RAW + JPEG , but as a 'News" organization they want a camera created JPEG with minimal "corrections'
They want direct JPEGs with minimal (specified) corrections, but they also want all your submissions to have the same "corrections" to avoid any chance of processing to influence content.
The Photographer can still do that with 'point of view', or timing of the picture etc but they have been embarrassed in the past with having to retract pictures that were later found to have been altered.
It is sort of a non story.

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Mar 3, 2024 15:00:55   #
Hip Coyote
 
I just looked at the link. It was a podcast wherein the author noted exactly why this was done, ethics and all that. If one just looks at the initial click bait title, it would be easy to get spun up for those who are like moths to a flame on raw vs. jpeg. But listen for a few minutes and all is revealed.

As the saying goes, "if you are going to drink, drink deeply."

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Mar 3, 2024 15:07:37   #
User ID
 
BigDaddy wrote:
Makes no sense. Why do they care if the jpgs started out as raw only capture? I can see why they don't want gigantic raw files, and certainly jpgs are all a news organization would need, but how the photographer took them originally is a moot point I would think.

Exactly.
And so such a "ban" is unenforceable.
A jpeg is a jpeg is a jpeg.

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