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Feb 27, 2024 17:49:56   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
I am solely taking care of my 98 yr. old mother who has some medical issues, and I haven't had the time to get out and use my A9III yet, mom's care comes first. When I do, I will surely post some images, probably some with the newly released Laowa 10mm f2.8 lens I have ordered.

Sorry to hear about your challenges.

Nobody else here is likely to meet my challenge to post an image "that other cameras just can't."

Nothing we can see on Facebook is going to do that either since their posted resolution is a tiny fraction of 24MP they aren't a good source either.

And Yodobashi means nothing over here. B&H and Adorama also a big dealers. Do you suppose they will reveal how well the A7 III is selling?

A lot more Fords and Chevys are sold than Cadillacs and Lincolns. Volume means nothing without context.

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Feb 27, 2024 17:53:05   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
I am solely taking care of my 98 yr. old mother who has some medical issues, and I haven't had the time to get out and use my A9III yet, mom's care comes first. When I do, I will surely post some images, probably some with the newly released Laowa 10mm f2.8 lens I have ordered.

There are loads of A9III shots all over Facebook and Instagram, just search them, lots from the Super Bowl from Associated Press and many others .

120fps raw with pre-capture, up to 1/80,000 second shutter speeds, and flash sync at all speeds up to 1/80,000 second are some things other cameras cant do, without having a global shutter, whether you understand that at all, and understand how to use those special features.

Here is one Facebook group just for A9III Bird Photography:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1365927700703064

Here is another Facebook group with lots of different subjects shot with the A9III, events, sports, wildlife, BIF, portraits, weddings with flash at all sync speeds and more, with more to come. :
Sony A9III shooters:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/745792547379076

And FYI, I have dealt with the good folks at both Adorama and B&H since they both started up in business back in the 1970's and I was a young staff newspaper photographer in New York. I know them well and they, along with my fav mom and pop dealer, Allen's Camera have told me their A9III sales have been excellent, better than expected for a $6000 USD camera. .

Yodobashi is one of the three biggest camera dealers in Japan and it is a good indicator of how cameras are doing in their home country.

As a founder, administrator, and moderator of some Worldwide Facebook Photography Groups, I have a more global view and perspective on the camera market and what photographers around the world are using, beyond just the USA market.

Cheers and best to you.
I am solely taking care of my 98 yr. old mother wh... (show quote)


Wow. Move over Canon and Nikon. There is a new Sheriff in town.

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Feb 27, 2024 17:53:10   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
BTW your link to used A9III has them "out of stock" LOL

Look again. One of them is still available.



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Feb 27, 2024 18:02:19   #
therwol Loc: USA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Exactly, and grey market folks like Abe's of Maine have it for less than list, as expected.



They'll probably take the shutter out and sell it separately as an accessory.

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Feb 27, 2024 22:48:38   #
gwilliams6
 
selmslie wrote:
Look again. One of them is still available.


It keeps going back and forth to " temporarily out of stock", depending where and when you search. That should tell you they are selling well.

I have talked with the dealers at the two biggest camera stores in the USA and they are selling well, better than expected, and still at list price at B&H and Adorama.

Be my guest to call Adorama and B&H, or Allen's Camera and ask for yourself, rather than make claims they aren't selling. While you are at it, call Yodobashi or any of the top camera dealers in Japan and check how they are selling in Japan also.

Open box, marketing copies, test copies are all used copies, and will sell for less than list, as will grey market copies. And as BillNikon said, Nothing new about that.

If you truly understood what global shutters sensors can do, that you cant do with other stacked sensors and BSI sensors, you would understand all the shots that global shutter cameras will be able to make that the other current rolling sensor shutters can't . Do yourself a favor and study up.

You can start here:
https://www.dpreview.com/learn/6348932189/what-is-global-shutter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMLqxEzpXQ4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSU1iKw3qX0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VezJo5Ax6PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rug7VL8QpA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dAvfU6zNmE

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/camera-literally-stop-bullets-midair-092430141.html

Cheers and best to you.

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Feb 28, 2024 01:20:15   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
Nikon Zh global shutter camera to be announced soon? Nikon Z users could you be interested in this ?

Here is the first report: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcf9X7a9stE

Likely the same global shutter sensor as in the Sony A9III. Nikon and Sony have a long history of business relationships, so this isn't surprising to me.

Cheers and best to you all.


That video is private.

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Feb 28, 2024 02:48:30   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
If you truly understood what global shutters sensors can do, that you cant do with other stacked sensors and BSI sensors, you would understand all the shots that global shutter cameras will be able to make that the other current rolling sensor shutters can't . Do yourself a favor and study up.

You are the one who doesn't seem to know the difference. I had to explain the rolling shutter to you!

I understand the difference between global, electronic and mechanical shutters better than you do. I have encountered the rolling shutter issue only a couple of times in a half century and it was not a tragedy.

As for researching the progress of sales figures, I could not care less. People will spend their money wherever they want to.

I'm just waiting to see someone, anyone, show me an image that they took with the A9 III that I could not have captured with an A7 III using the same lens. I can certainly do the opposite.

Don't get me wrong. The global shutter is a better solution going forward. It's just that it has some technical limitation that need to be resolved.

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Feb 28, 2024 04:24:10   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
selmslie wrote:
Don't get me wrong. The global shutter is a better solution going forward. It's just that it has some technical limitation that need to be resolved.

What’s Old is New will put some of the hype in perspective. The author suggests that a global shutter might provide benefits to less than 1% of the market.

With reference to the A9 III: ... notice all of the qualifiers for the “world’s first” designation? Specifically, full frame and stacked CMOS global shutter.

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Feb 28, 2024 07:38:45   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
Could be another rendition of the D2H 8fps compaired to the D2 4fps?

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Feb 28, 2024 07:40:18   #
BebuLamar
 
Artcameraman wrote:
Could be another rendition of the D2H 8fps compaired to the D2 4fps?


Yeah and 4MP vs the D2x 12MP. The Z9h may be 24MP vs Z9 45MP.

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Feb 28, 2024 07:48:34   #
Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH
 
I think you're right on the money or should I say megapixel. Cheers.

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Feb 28, 2024 07:53:06   #
BebuLamar
 
Artcameraman wrote:
I think you're right on the money or should I say megapixel. Cheers.


I think you're right too.
The D2H is 4MP and 9fps and the D2X is 12MP and 5fps. It doesn't seem a good trade off for speed vs resolution. So the Z9H is also a high speed camera with lower resolution than the Z9. When a still camera frame rate is higher than a motion picture frame rate well I won't be there.

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Feb 28, 2024 08:52:11   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
All my photographic interests have been satisfied.

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Feb 28, 2024 09:02:30   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Yeah and 4MP vs the D2x 12MP. The Z9h may be 24MP vs Z9 45MP.

24MP is an ideal resolution. All we need is an appropriate focal length to avoid cropping the result any more than it takes to level an image. All of my prime lenses are between 24mm and 135mm. My only zoom is 150-600mm.

My Z7 raw files are really big. The extra resolution is wasted on a print or an image to be posted on the internet. But it does offer the option of an in-camera crop to 4:5 or square that makes a smaller raw file.

My 24MP A7 III is as good as the Z7 and more practical.

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