4 X 5 Film Photography (Page 7): Once scanned, you have to process the photo on a computer monitor. How many monitors can even see such high resolutions? In fact, images of lower...

dbrugger25 Loc: Raleigh, NC

Ysarex wrote:

It's also ridiculous fantasy. Here's some reading: https://www.filmscanner.info/en/EpsonPerfectionV750Pro.html

Once scanned, you have to process the photo on a computer monitor. How many monitors can even see such high resolutions? In fact, images of lower resolution look great on a high quality monitor; even a good laptop monitor.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

dbrugger25 wrote:

Once scanned, you have to process the photo on a computer monitor. How many monitors can even see such high resolutions? In fact, images of lower resolution look great on a high quality monitor; even a good laptop monitor.

Every monitor can 'see' the 1:1 pixel-level details, every single one.

Your question is like 'how many monitors can see the entire 24MP image of current DSLRs?'. Phrased like that, it's either none, or maybe a screen that is 6000x4000px, or maybe 6-feet by 4-feet, being physically larger than the '4K' TVs being sold.

So, worrying about the monitor size 'needed' to see a med-format film scan is really just nonsense.

BebuLamar

CHG_CANON wrote:

Every monitor can 'see' the 1:1 pixel-level details, every single one.

Your question is like 'how many monitors can see the entire 24MP image of current DSLRs?'. Phrased like that, it's either none, or maybe a screen that is 6000x4000px, or maybe 6-feet by 4-feet, being physically larger than the '4K' TVs being sold.

So, worrying about the monitor size 'needed' to see a med-format film scan is really just nonsense.

There are some 8K monitors that can. Like this one
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-32-8k-monitor-up3218k/apd/210-alez/monitors-monitor-accessories?tfcid=39138382&&gacd=9684992-1102-5761040-266906002-0&dgc=ST&&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA0PuuBhBsEiwAS7fsNYQZkKXbixEtOuSkp3IBnhSVofyUn37ZIytPOdQR-dJUAyUr-fCP4RoCIcgQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

BebuLamar wrote:

There are some 8K monitors that can. Like this one
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-ultrasharp-32-8k-monitor-up3218k/apd/210-alez/monitors-monitor-accessories?tfcid=39138382&&gacd=9684992-1102-5761040-266906002-0&dgc=ST&&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA0PuuBhBsEiwAS7fsNYQZkKXbixEtOuSkp3IBnhSVofyUn37ZIytPOdQR-dJUAyUr-fCP4RoCIcgQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

How 'bout that!! We can finally 'see' these 24MP image files full-screen, no resizing, with only 32-inches of desktop geography used. Alas, I'll need to price to come down from the $4,023.99 quoted on Dell.com for this 8K model.

BebuLamar

CHG_CANON wrote:

How 'bout that!! We can finally 'see' these 24MP image files full-screen, no resizing, with only 32-inches of desktop geography used. Alas, I'll need to price to come down from the $4,023.99 quoted on Dell.com for this 8K model.

It will come down but by that time you may be using 100-200MP cameras. I remembered it was over $2000 for a 2K monitor.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

BebuLamar wrote:

It will come down but by that time you may be using 100-200MP cameras. I remembered it was over $2000 for a 2K monitor.

The sensor is not the issue.

You can't produce a 200MP image with a full frame lens that supports 50MP at best.

But you might get a 200MP image out of an 8x10 camera if you use the right film.

dbrugger25 Loc: Raleigh, NC

CHG_CANON wrote:

Every monitor can 'see' the 1:1 pixel-level details, every single one.

Your question is like 'how many monitors can see the entire 24MP image of current DSLRs?'. Phrased like that, it's either none, or maybe a screen that is 6000x4000px, or maybe 6-feet by 4-feet, being physically larger than the '4K' TVs being sold.

So, worrying about the monitor size 'needed' to see a med-format film scan is really just nonsense.

I think you made my case. I know you can keep zooming-in to pixel level but no computer monitor can see such huge files entirely on-screen at one time..

BebuLamar

dbrugger25 wrote:

I think you made my case. I know you can keep zooming-in to pixel level but no computer monitor can see such huge files entirely on-screen at one time..

As I answered CHG_CANON you can if you get an 8K monitor which has the resolution of 7680x4320 which is about 33MP. It would cost you around $4000. Quite affordable.

henryp Loc: New York, NY

radiojohn wrote:

Once upon a time there was an inflatable changing bag that formed a box. You might want to construct a light tight box and sacrifice the sleeves from an outerwear jacket to put on the sides.

Photoflex Film Changing Room (25 x 22 x 15")
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/41880-REG/Photoflex_AC_CROO1_Film_Changing_Room_25.html

dbrugger25 Loc: Raleigh, NC

Thank you! This looks like a great product. I have already purchased a changing bag and I have large hands and arms. It seems very tight but I haven't actually used it.

I have been restoring a late 50's Crown Graphic. I actually bought a fixer-upper at a fair price and also a second camera for parts. The two combined didn't cost that much. Things have gone well with the project and the surviving camera works well and looks good considering it is at least 66 years old. I worked part-time at camera repair shop when I was in high school and repaired many Crown and Speed Graphics for the Erie, PA newspapers.

I am 79. I had an identical camera when I was 15. At the time I thoroughly enjoyed having it and am now reliving the excitement.

I intend to develop the film at home. At first I will use an Epson V850 and a Canon Pixma Pro 200 to make prints. Eventually I will make prints the old fashioned way with an enlarger and chemicals.

I am 79 and have been on a nostalgia kick.

Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH

4X5 is a great size if you and getting into analog. Easy to handle and processing is forgiving. A drum processor is the way to go. Fast and no darlroom required once the film is loaded. I'm 81 and love it. Cheers.

dbrugger25 Loc: Raleigh, NC

Artcameraman wrote:

4X5 is a great size if you and getting into analog. Easy to handle and processing is forgiving. A drum processor is the way to go. Fast and no darlroom required once the film is loaded. I'm 81 and love it. Cheers.

I am excited. Restoring an old camera is a lot of fussing, but is interesting. I have had to make a few parts. Fortunately, I am goof at making things. Unfortunately, my eyesight, even with glasses, is failing.
I am thankful for magnifying glass and a lot of patience.

Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH

Keep going, it's fun.

MSW

my default id a drum processor for 4x5 ... never could get the ang of trays

Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH

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