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Jan 27, 2024 10:42:31   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
One local high school will be requiring all students to wear ID tags around their necks while on school property. I wonder how that is going to work.

Another high school is requiring photo ID and a wearable ID tag for all visitors, and registered sex offenders will not be allowed into the school. I wonder if that is a change in policy. 😂

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Jan 27, 2024 11:04:36   #
Shellback Loc: North of Cheyenne Bottoms Wetlands - Kansas
 
In some states, certain offenses that are not sexually motivated can result in being classified as a sex offender. These may include:
Unlawful imprisonment
Public urination
Indecent exposure

So, you’re at a party and you step behind some bushes or a tree and answer ‘natures call’ and get spotted and charged and convicted. You’re registered as a sex offender. Now xx years later, you’re married with kids and you are not allowed to go to their school… (this happened quite regularly in San Diego in the late 70’s and early 80’s with young sailors - not sure if it is still happening)

I can see the lawsuits coming already -

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Jan 28, 2024 07:34:34   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Shellback wrote:
In some states, certain offenses that are not sexually motivated can result in being classified as a sex offender. These may include:
Unlawful imprisonment
Public urination
Indecent exposure

So, you’re at a party and you step behind some bushes or a tree and answer ‘natures call’ and get spotted and charged and convicted. You’re registered as a sex offender. Now xx years later, you’re married with kids and you are not allowed to go to their school… (this happened quite regularly in San Diego in the late 70’s and early 80’s with young sailors - not sure if it is still happening)

I can see the lawsuits coming already -
In some states, certain offenses that are not sexu... (show quote)


I've spent enough time in schools. No more for me!

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Jan 28, 2024 10:22:05   #
marine73 Loc: Modesto California
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I've spent enough time in schools. No more for me!


Jerry you can't get away from school, you are going on a daily basis. You are not attending a formal classroom but wherever you are or may be will be your classroom. so when we graduate high school/college we move from those formal classrooms to the classroom of life. Just my take on schooling.

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Jan 28, 2024 10:26:09   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
marine73 wrote:
Jerry you can't get away from school, you are going on a daily basis. You are not attending a formal classroom but wherever you are or may be will be your classroom. so when we graduate high school/college we move from those formal classrooms to the classroom of life. Just my take on schooling.


Right! My classroom on my terms!

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Jan 28, 2024 11:01:00   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
jerryc41 wrote:
…..local high school will be requiring all students to wear ID tags around their necks while on school property…..


Definitely!!! I am in favor of photo ID’s for students, teachers staff and visitors. No sex offenders should be allowed in school!!!

I have to wear one at work required by state law and hospital policy. You get used to it after 23 years

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Jan 28, 2024 11:02:17   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I've spent enough time in schools. No more for me!


My daughter is a music teacher. She doesn’t mind.

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Jan 28, 2024 11:46:33   #
whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.
 
marine73 wrote:
Jerry you can't get away from school, you are going on a daily basis. You are not attending a formal classroom but wherever you are or may be will be your classroom. so when we graduate high school/college we move from those formal classrooms to the classroom of life. Just my take on schooling.


Yupper. Left college in ‘65. Now I’m attending lectures and seminars at UT Austin. Under the OLLI program. Really enjoying it.

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Jan 28, 2024 13:15:25   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
One local high school will be requiring all students to wear ID tags around their necks while on school property. I wonder how that is going to work.

Another high school is requiring photo ID and a wearable ID tag for all visitors, and registered sex offenders will not be allowed into the school. I wonder if that is a change in policy. 😂


As a guy who ran a department in a school portrait lab that made several million ID Cards each year, here are the reasons why:

Barcode systems are used to eat lunch, check out library books, and get into school events such as games, plays and concerts, with season passes.

Barcode systems are used to gain entry into card-locked doors.

The ID Cards have photos of students on them to identify them to school resource officers, ombudsmen, vice principals, teachers, etc.

The best reasons to require IDs are to eliminate the need for cash transactions and to ensure students are where they are supposed to be.

If the kid loses an ID, the office often has a student information system and software that can make another one on a dye-sublimation plastic card printer.

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Jan 28, 2024 13:26:40   #
RonBoyd
 
jerryc41 wrote:
One local high school will be requiring all students to wear ID tags around their necks while on school property. I wonder how that is going to work.


I wonder how much of this can be in response to the guns used against them are so powerful that DNA becomes the only form of identification. Isn't that the purpose of "dog tags"?

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Jan 28, 2024 15:53:46   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Scruples wrote:
Definitely!!! I am in favor of photo ID’s for students, teachers staff and visitors. No sex offenders should be allowed in school!!!

I have to wear one at work required by state law and hospital policy. You get used to it after 23 years


I'm thinking about getting hundreds of kids to go along with that rule.

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Jan 28, 2024 16:12:29   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Third offense of no ID they put a sticker on your forehead in first period.

Third time removing the sticker, it is indelible ink on the forehead. And no watch caps, hairbands, hats or haircuts of any kind that might hide it.

Second semester of offenses you get a light jacket with your ID on the front and back with a locking zipper and only the Dean has a key. Jacket gets damaged or "lost" you have to buy another one by cleaning trash cans (custodian gets to watch and supervise) at $5 an hour.

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Jan 28, 2024 16:18:13   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
RonBoyd wrote:
I wonder how much of this can be in response to the guns used against them are so powerful that DNA becomes the only form of identification. Isn't that the purpose of "dog tags"?


Almost no gun that might be involved in a school shooting is that powerful. They are almost always small, cheap, relatively low powered hand guns. To blow up a body, you need either very large or explosive projectiles. A very powerful handgun might burst a head open, a shotgun can also do that. TV and movies greatly exaggerate the power of handguns, bodies do not fly backwards, they fall forward, backward, sideways or just go limp and drop straight down if it is an "instant" kill.

Anything large enough or powerful enough to make a body fly would be too big to hold or the recoil would also make the shooter fly backwards.

In combat, bodies often get blown to pieces or lost. So dog tags are in pairs. A soldier gets killed, the NCO or officer takes one tag. The other stays with the body in case it is not recovered before it decays. If the head is intact, they actually jam it between the teeth and may even kick it into place - that is what the notch on a dog tag is for. Gruesome, but combat is gruesome.

In Vietnam, the NVA and VC would sometimes take that tag just to mess with us. After the war, for a while there was a market selling families those dog tags taken from the bodies and if they also knew the location of the body the price was a lot higher.

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Jan 28, 2024 18:05:26   #
nervous2 Loc: Provo, Utah
 
RonBoyd wrote:
I wonder how much of this can be in response to the guns used against them are so powerful that DNA becomes the only form of identification. Isn't that the purpose of "dog tags"?


I don't think so, Ron.

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Jan 28, 2024 18:37:40   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I'm thinking about getting hundreds of kids to go along with that rule.


Are you with the school system? Either way, start a petition and send it to the superintendent. Do not be afraid of back lash. It is common. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one!

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