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Jan 19, 2024 07:02:56   #
Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY
 
R.G. wrote:
Lots of rumours. You could try googling Nikon rumours or try HERE on YouTube.


I am still waiting for the rumored D400!

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Jan 19, 2024 07:03:53   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
larryepage wrote:
I personally am not holding my breath for such a camera. The crop sensor was a manufacturing compromise, because it was just too difficult to make "full size" sensors. Now that sensor technology is more mature, that motivation is not nearly as strong. It is also going to be ever more difficult for companies to support making multiple formats if the market continues to shrink.

The next "new" camera that I buy (if it happens) will be a Z8 or whatever similar model is available when that happens. But I do not plan to ever get rid of my D500s. They are just too good (for everything, not just birds, sports, and wildlife). Several here like to make fun of me for having that attitude, but I really don't care. Their ignorance doesn't phase me in the least.

So my advice is to take good care of that D500. You might even consider buying a second one if you can find a nice one at a good price.
I personally am not holding my breath for such a c... (show quote)



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Jan 19, 2024 07:05:09   #
ClarkJohnson Loc: Fort Myers, FL and Cohasset, MA
 
Bridges wrote:
I currently am using a z8 and z6ii but am hanging on to the D500. I would like to go all in for mirrorless but Nikon so far hasn't built a replacement for the D500. I like using the 500 with a longer lens since it turns the 200-500 into a 300-750. The z crop sensor cameras are not a replacement in my opinion but more of an entry-level camera. Does anyone think a more professional/enthusiast crop sensor body is likely?


I share this sentiment. I am fully invested in Nikon mirrorless FF (Z8; Z9) and only reluctantly sold my D500. But I also have a Z50, which was my first Z, and that thing is just so much fun to shoot and so easy to carry. If we don’t get a full D500 pro camera, at least let’s get an update on this wonderful camera.

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Jan 19, 2024 07:05:58   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
Bridges wrote:
I currently am using a z8 and z6ii but am hanging on to the D500. I would like to go all in for mirrorless but Nikon so far hasn't built a replacement for the D500. I like using the 500 with a longer lens since it turns the 200-500 into a 300-750. The z crop sensor cameras are not a replacement in my opinion but more of an entry-level camera. Does anyone think a more professional/enthusiast crop sensor body is likely?


Hard to say. Z8 doesn't shoot in crop mode? Rumors of a Z6III that might satisfy your needs shot in crop mode. I doubt a crop replacement like Canon did with the R7. Reach out to Nikon & ask.

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Jan 19, 2024 07:19:50   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Bridges wrote:
I currently am using a z8 and z6ii but am hanging on to the D500. I would like to go all in for mirrorless but Nikon so far hasn't built a replacement for the D500. I like using the 500 with a longer lens since it turns the 200-500 into a 300-750. The z crop sensor cameras are not a replacement in my opinion but more of an entry-level camera. Does anyone think a more professional/enthusiast crop sensor body is likely?


No, Nikon has not produced a APS-C in a Z body. I left my D500 a while back to go mirrorless full frame. I shoot with a 50mp full frame body that can, with a push of a button, go to APS-C mode and it gives me about 23mp, just about the same as I used to get with my D500.
The Z8 and Z9 will get you just about 19.22 MP in APS-C mode. Because of this, I do not believe Nikon will produce a APS-C camera because you already have one built into both the Z8 and Z9.
And with the D500 you can shoot a top end FPS of 10.
With the Z8 you can shoot 20 FPS RAW and 30 FPS Jpeg.
So, again, why produce a APS-C body, there is no need.
You say you own the Z8, then you already have the replacement for the D500.
So, I am sure you have the adapter for you 200-500 to fit the D500, in APS-C mode on the Z8 you already have a lens that can produce a field of view of 300-750. GO USE IT!

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Jan 19, 2024 07:29:27   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
Bridges wrote:
I currently am using a z8 and z6ii but am hanging on to the D500. I would like to go all in for mirrorless but Nikon so far hasn't built a replacement for the D500. I like using the 500 with a longer lens since it turns the 200-500 into a 300-750. The z crop sensor cameras are not a replacement in my opinion but more of an entry-level camera. Does anyone think a more professional/enthusiast crop sensor body is likely?


Same here but I am not holding my breath anymore...my fingernails were starting to turn blue. It seems that a Z500 or whatever it may be called is not on the immediate horizon, as Nikon concentrated on the FF market. There is speculation on a Z50ii but not sure if it will have specs similar to or surpassing that of the great D500. As some will point out sure you can place a Z8 into crop mode for about 19 mp but it's not quite the same as a full sensor readout of a native DX camera. I think eventually late in 2024 or 2025 they MAY release a native crop version of the Z8 perhaps - perhaps also it may have a global shutter, BSI/stacked sensor, IBIS, and maybe 26-33 MP. The specs and performance of a Z500 camera should exceed that of the D500, to keep up with the trends. Price point around when the D500 was introduced would be sweet too.

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Jan 19, 2024 07:48:14   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I don't know if Nikon would do it. It has to have at least 24MP, at least same AF and frame rate as the Z8 and priced below $2000.




Yes, now that Nikon FINALLY has a light/affordable 400mm f4.5 prime, we all need a crop frame body to go with it for wildlife/birds ! Sony does not have the 400 prime or a crop frame body ! Sony has put all their eggs in the full frame basket and everyone else has followed ....
Canon has a decent R crop frame but no affordable 400 f4-ish R prime to go with it - AND - no plans of making one !

IMO, 400 f4-ish on crop frame is the optimum STARTING point for quality wildlife/birds with the ability to get to 800-ish with extension .....

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Jan 19, 2024 08:04:09   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
mikeroetex wrote:
So why not buy a second Z8 and set it in DX mode, leave the other in FX mode?


Overkill and not in my budget to own two z8s. I think a crop-sensor z would be about half the price of the z8. Someone posted a link about the development of a z90 and that is more in line with what I was looking for. If it does have a 33 mpx. sensor as is speculated, that would be much better than the 20 mpx. the z8 would produce in crop format.

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Jan 19, 2024 08:06:18   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
chrisg-optical wrote:
Same here but I am not holding my breath anymore...my fingernails were starting to turn blue. It seems that a Z500 or whatever it may be called is not on the immediate horizon, as Nikon concentrated on the FF market. There is speculation on a Z50ii but not sure if it will have specs similar to or surpassing that of the great D500. As some will point out sure you can place a Z8 into crop mode for about 19 mp but it's not quite the same as a full sensor readout of a native DX camera. I think eventually late in 2024 or 2025 they MAY release a native crop version of the Z8 perhaps - perhaps also it may have a global shutter, BSI/stacked sensor, IBIS, and maybe 26-33 MP. The specs and performance of a Z500 camera should exceed that of the D500, to keep up with the trends. Price point around when the D500 was introduced would be sweet too.
Same here but I am not holding my breath anymore..... (show quote)


Yes, just remember how long Nikonians had to wait for the D500 ! ! 8-(

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Jan 19, 2024 09:02:40   #
DaveyDitzer Loc: Western PA
 
mikeroetex wrote:
So why not buy a second Z8 and set it in DX mode, leave the other in FX mode?


The first two reasons that come to my mind are $3800 (on sale) and 32.1oz (about the same weight as a D850).

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Jan 19, 2024 09:09:15   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Bridges wrote:
I currently am using a z8 and z6ii but am hanging on to the D500. I would like to go all in for mirrorless but Nikon so far hasn't built a replacement for the D500. I like using the 500 with a longer lens since it turns the 200-500 into a 300-750. The z crop sensor cameras are not a replacement in my opinion but more of an entry-level camera. Does anyone think a more professional/enthusiast crop sensor body is likely?


I have a similar situation, except my "mirrored" camera is a D750. I'm considering selling it, but I like it too much. I'm also considering selling the D6 II because I have the Z8.

I have no idea what Nikon might do about a mirrorless similar to the D500.

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Jan 19, 2024 09:30:54   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
Bridges wrote:
I currently am using a z8 and z6ii but am hanging on to the D500. I would like to go all in for mirrorless but Nikon so far hasn't built a replacement for the D500. I like using the 500 with a longer lens since it turns the 200-500 into a 300-750. The z crop sensor cameras are not a replacement in my opinion but more of an entry-level camera. Does anyone think a more professional/enthusiast crop sensor body is likely?


The Z50 is as good as the D500 or you can put your Z8 in DX mode and achieve the same effect.

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Jan 19, 2024 09:33:33   #
Randyfrieder Loc: Long Island, New York
 
Having a full frame 45.6mp Z8, you would be better served by shooting it on full frame, instead of crop mode. That way you get a larger overall image and you also have the flexibility to crop the image many different ways.
That is a real advantage.
And yes, a simple one button push can toggle the camera between aps-c and full frame mode.
Assuming the menus options are the same, with my Z9.
Ymmv
Imho
📸 Regards, Randy 📸

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Jan 19, 2024 09:40:49   #
PaulW128 Loc: Long Island, NY
 
[quote=billnikon]No, Nikon has not produced a APS-C in a Z body

Bill

Did you mean to say Nikon will not produce a new APS-C Z body? Surely you're aware of the Z50 and ZFC

regards,
Paul

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Jan 19, 2024 09:47:40   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Jack 13088 wrote:
I am still waiting for the rumored D400!


Any day now. Keep the faith

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