RAW edit " Order Of Operations "
Jan 15, 2024 10:12:24 #
billnikon wrote:
1. load RAW into RAW Photoshop
2. make quick adjustments
3. save into regular photoshop
4. make adjustments
5. if needed back into photoshop raw
6. back into regular photoshop
7. finish with Topaz sharpen and denoise
2. make quick adjustments
3. save into regular photoshop
4. make adjustments
5. if needed back into photoshop raw
6. back into regular photoshop
7. finish with Topaz sharpen and denoise
That sounds pretty logical to me Bill....
Jan 15, 2024 10:13:57 #
CliffMcKenzie
Loc: Lake Athens Texas
MrBob wrote:
Never thought about lens profile first... Interesting, I will look into it. BTW, Is it cold there ? I emigrated from Oldsmar to NE Alabama.
Build lens profile into an import preset. I also include setting sharpen to 0 during import. Current temperature is 17 in East Texas, but it is still higher than the Dallas Cowboy stock.
Jan 15, 2024 10:15:48 #
Jack 13088 wrote:
These two statements can't both be true.Well ACR (and I assume all raw editors) rebuild the image from scratch after each change to create the preview you see on the screen. The changes are applied in the optimal order so the order in which you apply them does’t matter. ....
Jan 15, 2024 10:20:50 #
CamB wrote:
And there it is. This is always a funny discussion. Everybody does it differently. ....
Lots of strong opinions but very little concrete information on why one sequence is preferable over another.
Jan 15, 2024 10:26:07 #
bobmcculloch wrote:
OMG! You mean that you GIRITC and that the result is minimal retouching is needed?!! What a "unique" concept for UHHers. But beware! The native's get riled when you kill a sacred cow.Do you really need to do all that?
Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Most of my RAW conversion is add a touch of contrast and a touch of saturation, in DPP, and save to TIFF. Straighten and crop are done in PSP, cannot remember last time I de-noised.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Most of my RAW conversion is add a touch of contrast and a touch of saturation, in DPP, and save to TIFF. Straighten and crop are done in PSP, cannot remember last time I de-noised.
Jan 15, 2024 10:29:40 #
MrBob wrote:
That was REALLY thoughtful Jerry.... A spinoff on the ridiculous math puzzle. You pretty much NAILED IT.
He mentioned "Order of Operations."
Jan 15, 2024 10:29:44 #
MrBob wrote:
Some of that can be applied upon import. Food for thought, lens profile might slightly change the image framing and if it is to be cropped the results might slightly affect how it is cropped.Never thought about lens profile first... Interesting, I will look into it. BTW, Is it cold there ? I emigrated from Oldsmar to NE Alabama.
Jan 15, 2024 10:31:02 #
Delderby wrote:
What is a real photographer?I'd include a new #1 - Pay more attention to framing and composition in camera - like real photographers do. 
Jan 15, 2024 10:33:36 #
JD750 wrote:
What is a real photographer?
Someone with an expensive camera and lens, of course.
Jan 15, 2024 10:42:13 #
jerryc41 wrote:
Right!! Someone with an expensive camera and lens, of course.
Thank you.Jan 15, 2024 11:00:00 #
JBGLADSTONE
Loc: Oregon
MrBob wrote:
YES... I think a lot of us have gotten spoiled with our zooms, not that they are not very useful but most of us can still move back and forth a bit. If we thought more of " cropping " as pixel reduction, we would be more careful in our compositions... I need to start practicing some of this stuff !!
Thank you MrBob, regarding correct use of zoom.
I need to accomplish my crop in the camera. This will help in retaining Pixel count. Leveling seems to be most of my correction in crop. At least a smaller amount of cropping to help in composition.
My thinking is I need to place more on what I want as a finished product. Instead of liking what I see.
Thanks MrBob
Jan 15, 2024 11:10:54 #
[quote=MrBob]..." Order Of Operations "...
I find it important to crop first.
This sometimes eliminates issues from the image that need not be corrected, particularly back lighting or hot spots which affect overall exposure.
I find it important to crop first.
This sometimes eliminates issues from the image that need not be corrected, particularly back lighting or hot spots which affect overall exposure.
Jan 15, 2024 11:18:44 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
This is an interesting discussion. Just a couple of comments..
Lens correction should be done early. It must be done before stitching a panorama. Many cameras will do lens corrections for branded lenses at the time of shooting. This is convenient and saves time later. If you do in-camera correction, do not follow up with a second correction during processing. And it's pretty easy to verify whether your camera applies the correction to raw files...just take two exposures ( one with correction, one without) using an extreme wide angle lens. See if the corner vignetting has been corrected.
Also...I would never crop an unprocessed image anywhere early in the process, before adjustments are made. There is no way to know for sure how peripheral components might look with adjustments, or how they might impact the finished image if left in place. (Never might be a little too strong a word, but you know what I mean. )
Lens correction should be done early. It must be done before stitching a panorama. Many cameras will do lens corrections for branded lenses at the time of shooting. This is convenient and saves time later. If you do in-camera correction, do not follow up with a second correction during processing. And it's pretty easy to verify whether your camera applies the correction to raw files...just take two exposures ( one with correction, one without) using an extreme wide angle lens. See if the corner vignetting has been corrected.
Also...I would never crop an unprocessed image anywhere early in the process, before adjustments are made. There is no way to know for sure how peripheral components might look with adjustments, or how they might impact the finished image if left in place. (Never might be a little too strong a word, but you know what I mean. )
Jan 15, 2024 11:52:24 #
larryepage wrote:
This is an interesting discussion. Just a couple o... (show quote)
The only downside of doing lens correction in camera is that it can substantially cut down the burst speed (as the CPU processes the image). The effect was quite noticable in my 5D4, so now I do it as part of the conversion in post.
Jan 15, 2024 12:42:38 #
TheShoe
Loc: Lacey, WA
CliffMcKenzie wrote:
First, your example shows a jpeg and not a raw example. You just hired the Morman Tabernacle Choir to hum.
Must be a time traveler to hire them. They ditched the Mormon and are now just the Tabernacle Choir.
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