Toby

Except nuclear fusion but it's a few years away

Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada

I suspect f****l f**ls will do the way of the dinosaur. EVs will likely replace them and for these to be effective, they have to work using renewable electric power. Europe has already put a time limit on internal combustion engines, recently moving the end date from 2040 to 2035. There will be improvements in batteries, making them last longer and be less prone to fire.

Toby

Very true and funny but at least EV exhaust doesn't smell as bad and I never stepped in it!

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

Converting vehicles entirely to electric or hydrogen would not end the need for petroleum products. Oil is used for lubricants, plastics, textiles, medicines, and lots of other stuff. The USA is a producer of oil so perhaps we wouldn't need to import as much, but it wouldn't stop the pumping. The only way to do that is to develop other sources for the other uses. Research needed.

bikinkawboy Loc: north central Missouri

If there is a bright side to any of this, when you take your used motor oil in to be recycled, most of that gets turned into fuel that is used by container ships. So it isn’t actually wasted after lubricating your engine.

And jmat is correct about the hypocrisy of so many politicians and entertainers. Politicians such as AG, entertainers like the U2 guy and the Titanic movie fellow fly in on their private jet and then tell their audience what they should and shouldn’t do to reduce burning f****l f**ls. The same tired old “do as I say and not as I do.”

Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA

Have you seen the massive mining operations that are required to harvest all the minerals required to make e-cars usable? Where is the electricity coming from to charge all these cars -- from f****l f**l plants! Electric cars are a band-aid placed over a wound that will keep bleeding. If we are serious about reducing greenhouse gasses, we need to be building more nuclear power plants and developing hydrogen-powered vehicles.

Hydrogen is the most plentiful element in the solar system, does not require scaring the earth with mining, and produces only water coming from a tailpipe in autos. One company (I believe Toyota) has built a car that uses something like nine hydrogen cylinders in a line across the back of the car. To refuel, a panel is lifted on the rear of the car and one or all of the cylinders can be easily removed and a new one inserted. I know the technology about how to produce large amounts of hydrogen is not ready for the consuming public just yet, but I contend neither is electric.

No one is addressing the downside of an all-electric fleet of autos. As people earlier in this post have pointed out, a lot of people are becoming disenchanted with electric vehicles and I believe that trend will continue.

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

Our highway department collected used oil from their trucks and from farms and used it to heat their repair bays. They may have also collected some from auto repair shops.

Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada

I have no idea of what the future brings, but even f****l f**l lubricants may go the way of the dodo... There are many synthetic lubricants on the market and the number is growing and some are better. The reason f****l f**l lubricants are in common use is their cost. This will likely change in future.

W9OD Loc: Wisconsin

Great information Jerry. Thank you.

rdemarco52 Loc: Wantagh, NY

How many miles per charge do you think people in the midwest are getting with these frigid temperatures? There are many problems to be solved with EV's before they become viable.

andesbill

I own a Tesla model 3. Absolutely great car. Better than the Forrester I had when I lived in Andes, better than the Camry hybrid I traded in for it, although I loved the Camry.
A pleasure to drive. Tesla superchargers work great when I drive from Naples FL to Hewlett L.I. to see my family.
By the time I’m finished going to the BR, walking the dog and grabbing a quick breakfast or sandwich, the car is long finished charging and waiting for us.
However, I don’t see how I can visit friends in Andes. I’d have to charge up in Kingston. By the time I reached Andes (57 miles away over hills) I would only have about 140-160 miles left (leaving 80+ miles to recharge back in Kingston). Maybe it would be enough, but it’s hilly and I wish there were decent chargers around, not the 16kw ones in Margaretville and Andes.
If you drive mostly locally, and have your own charger, no problem. Oneonta has Tesla superchargers. The area could use some more.
By next year, most ev cars will be using Tesla superchargers.
Try one. They are tons of fun.

Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA

So much for the Green New Deal. Boom.

"Where's your Sergeant soldier?"

"Blown up sir!"

-Bill Murray - Stripes (1981)


PS- I never had a desire to own a golf cart. Electric vehicles are pretty much that with bells and whistles.

BebuLamar

How long did you have it and what kind of maintenance cost so far? I am thinking of getting a model 3.

John N Loc: HP14 3QF Stokenchurch, UK

20 mpg is really only a U.S. issue, most vehicles elsewhere are way above that so overall that isn't going to make much difference to the issue. I'm not sure Hydrogen is the way forward either, short term maybe, but in the years to come (long after I'm boxed and packed) will we find problems with additional Oxygen and Hydrogen in the atmosphere and less water in the oceans?

Dikdik Loc: Winnipeg, Canada

With the way things are going, that's not likely to happen for a real real long time. I'm talking millennia here...