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A Pano Challenge with a 150th years celebration Mural in Winfield, Kansas
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Jan 8, 2024 08:57:52   #
Barn Owl
 
Have to admit I like the challenge of trying to capture town/city murals. This pano presented an unexpected complication for me. I could not do an easy wide angle (24mm) because of the cars along the curb. Thus, I worked my Canon 10mm and of course, set on manual focus. I was careful to lock up the mirror and use the timer release. In addition, I was on a tripod. When I attempted to auto photomerge in Photoshop, I could not get any of the results I wanted. I was surprised to discover that the backup photos I had held with lens-based stability allowed me to edit the attached pano. If I were to have the pano printed its length is 7 feet. I do not intend to have a print made but the process taught me, under some circumstances wide-angle shooting from my tripod for panos may not provide me with the results I want. Did I mention I had to use the Warp command on several of the perimeters of the pano? At any rate, I was impressed with the historical art presentation within the mural.



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Jan 8, 2024 11:18:25   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
Interesting and nice effort. I’m curious about the individual images. You on a sidewalk close to the mural but above you? Move after every shot? How many images?

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Jan 8, 2024 11:36:34   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
Barn Owl wrote:
Have to admit I like the challenge of trying to capture town/city murals. This pano presented an unexpected complication for me. I could not do an easy wide angle (24mm) because of the cars along the curb. Thus, I worked my Canon 10mm and of course, set on manual focus. I was careful to lock up the mirror and use the timer release. In addition, I was on a tripod. When I attempted to auto photomerge in Photoshop, I could not get any of the results I wanted. I was surprised to discover that the backup photos I had held with lens-based stability allowed me to edit the attached pano. If I were to have the pano printed its length is 7 feet. I do not intend to have a print made but the process taught me, under some circumstances wide-angle shooting from my tripod for panos may not provide me with the results I want. Did I mention I had to use the Warp command on several of the perimeters of the pano? At any rate, I was impressed with the historical art presentation within the mural.
Have to admit I like the challenge of trying to ca... (show quote)


Shoot from far enough away to make it a single shot. That will also allow enough space to bring the top forward. Then crop to something close to this. That will make the panorama much more pleasing. (I think)

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Jan 8, 2024 11:39:47   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
cahale wrote:
Shoot from far enough away to make it a single shot. That will also allow enough space to bring the top forward. Then crop to something close to this. That will make the panorama much more pleasing. (I think)


Interesting…a single shot…. 10mm. That also somewhat explains the “warp” adjustment. Thank you! 👍

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Jan 8, 2024 12:37:37   #
Barn Owl
 
47greyfox, Thanks for checking the details of the pano. It required nine separate horizontal photos with 1/3 overlap. The pano is almost 1/2 block long. Had I tried vertical separate photos I would have been exhausted in the cold.

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Jan 8, 2024 12:38:59   #
Barn Owl
 
cahale, Would have been an easy solution but impossible with the vehicles parked in front of the mural.

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Jan 8, 2024 12:47:45   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
47greyfox wrote:
Interesting…a single shot…. 10mm. That also somewhat explains the “warp” adjustment. Thank you! 👍


You're welcome. I very rarely stitch multiple shot to make a panorama. I have found it's much easier to work with one more distant shot and then trim to the aspects I want. No messing with alignment or color disparities that way. I do occasionally see possibilities in shots taken without any intent to merge. I'm attaching one of the few. Study it and see if you can determine what I did.


(Download)

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Jan 8, 2024 13:29:45   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
cahale wrote:
You're welcome. I very rarely stitch multiple shot to make a panorama. I have found it's much easier to work with one more distant shot and then trim to the aspects I want. No messing with alignment or color disparities that way. I do occasionally see possibilities in shots taken without any intent to merge. I'm attaching one of the few. Study it and see if you can determine what I did.


Well.... I gotta say, you have me wondering. Initially, it appeared (to me) that it might be a merge of some kind. But.... looking again at the download, I'm throwing that idea out. The only thing I can come up with is that it's a focus stack or shot at distance and cropped. Or sticking with my original guess, a merge of two shots. The water foreground and a center line from front to back on the hill somehow looks manipulated, but yet the sky is uniform.
But... as you might guess, that's exactly what I'm doing - "guessing."

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Jan 8, 2024 14:51:39   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
47greyfox wrote:
Well.... I gotta say, you have me wondering. Initially, it appeared (to me) that it might be a merge of some kind. But.... looking again at the download, I'm throwing that idea out. The only thing I can come up with is that it's a focus stack or shot at distance and cropped. Or sticking with my original guess, a merge of two shots. The water foreground and a center line from front to back on the hill somehow looks manipulated, but yet the sky is uniform.
But... as you might guess, that's exactly what I'm doing - "guessing."
Well.... I gotta say, you have me wondering. Initi... (show quote)


Pretty good guessing. Actually it's 2 different shots of the same scene, with about a 10 degree swing. Then, reversing one of the shots and stitching the 2 together, smudging the join, and altering some of the details on one side, to avoid the mirror effect. The sky looks uniform, because it came from Anthropics Landscape Pro. I am not a proponent of reality, just what looks good. Base software was Elements 2021.

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Jan 8, 2024 14:59:54   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
cahale wrote:
Pretty good guessing. Actually it's 2 different shots of the same scene, with about a 10 degree swing. Then, reversing one of the shots and stitching the 2 together, smudging the join, and altering some of the details on one side, to avoid the mirror effect. The sky looks uniform, because it came from Anthropics Landscape Pro. I am not a proponent of reality, just what looks good. Base software was Elements 2021.


Nice effect! I downloaded the image and looked at with FastStone Image Viewer. When I looked at the "Image Properties," Elements 19.0 was reported as the software. But... I'm thinking that's because I have that version on my desktop. Anyway, I like what you did.

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Jan 8, 2024 16:10:50   #
Boris77
 
cahale wrote:
You're welcome. I very rarely stitch multiple shot to make a panorama. I have found it's much easier to work with one more distant shot and then trim to the aspects I want. No messing with alignment or color disparities that way. I do occasionally see possibilities in shots taken without any intent to merge. I'm attaching one of the few. Study it and see if you can determine what I did.


Seam down the middle made obvious by all the points formed where the halves meet.
It would not be noticed in a quick look at an unfamiliar subject.
Boris

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Jan 8, 2024 17:13:56   #
Barn Owl
 
cahale, Hope I am sending to the right respondence. At first, I thought you had used the cylinder choice on a couple merge landscape photos. However, since you indicate you did not use more than one photo, I am not certain what you did. Either way, I like your image.

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Jan 8, 2024 17:27:23   #
Barn Owl
 
cahale, Just saw your description of your edits on your scenic photos. I consider my limitation, investments, and patience restricted to Photoshop 2024. The only exception is macro stacking with Digital Photo Professional; that was an experience but I finally found enough hints in YouTube to produce some interesting results. That is not the entire story; I use Breeze Browser Pro (think it has been sold to another corp) for my email proofs and my IPTC data entries to create my HTMLs. Always good to hear from UHH members and their suggested hints and skills with software. Onward to 2024!

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Jan 8, 2024 18:36:44   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
cahale wrote:
You're welcome. I very rarely stitch multiple shot to make a panorama. I have found it's much easier to work with one more distant shot and then trim to the aspects I want. No messing with alignment or color disparities that way. I do occasionally see possibilities in shots taken without any intent to merge. I'm attaching one of the few. Study it and see if you can determine what I did.


It's definitely beautiful (Did you mirror it somehow?)

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Jan 8, 2024 23:51:04   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
joecichjr wrote:
It's definitely beautiful (Did you mirror it somehow?)


Thanks. 2 similar shots of the same scene, with one reversed, and then stitched the 2 together with some moves for alignment and blurring and patching to remove the to-obvious similarities.

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