New Name For an Old Friend?
Dec 14, 2023 10:58:06 #
I was just notified this morning that there was an update for "Photoshop Camera Raw." Is it now "PCR" instead of "ACR"?
Dec 14, 2023 11:14:12 #
terryMc wrote:
I was just notified this morning that there was an update for "Photoshop Camera Raw." Is it now "PCR" instead of "ACR"?
RAW adjustments in the Adobe landscape is best done in Lightroom. We've had a few recent UHH threads about the Young, the New, the Future. Adobe too much see there's no growth in PhotoShop, so it's time to fence them off in some back pasture of the property.
Dec 14, 2023 14:38:47 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
RAW adjustments in the Adobe landscape is best done in Lightroom. We've had a few recent UHH threads about the Young, the New, the Future. Adobe too much see there's no growth in PhotoShop, so it's time to fence them off in some back pasture of the property.
I hope you're wrong. I first learned image processing on Photoshop, either Ver. 2 or 3. I do all my processing in Photoshop. I have been told, since I do no processing in LR, I can't say for sure, that everything you can do in LR can be done in PS but not everything you can do in PS can be done in LR. Is that true.
Dec 14, 2023 14:47:25 #
Curmudgeon wrote:
I hope you're wrong. I first learned image processing on Photoshop, either Ver. 2 or 3. I do all my processing in Photoshop. I have been told, since I do no processing in LR, I can't say for sure, that everything you can do in LR can be done in PS but not everything you can do in PS can be done in LR. Is that true.
If you can't do it in LR, both faster and easier, who cares ....
Dec 14, 2023 15:24:37 #
Curmudgeon wrote:
I hope you're wrong. I first learned image processing on Photoshop, either Ver. 2 or 3. I do all my processing in Photoshop. I have been told, since I do no processing in LR, I can't say for sure, that everything you can do in LR can be done in PS but not everything you can do in PS can be done in LR. Is that true.
I started in Photoshop with the first version for Windows, which I believe was 2.5, maybe 1992. I've had this ridiculous Lightroom argument before, and I'm not having it again.
Dec 14, 2023 17:26:27 #
Curmudgeon wrote:
...not everything you can do in PS can be done in LR. Is that true.
PS can use layers and LR can't.
Dec 14, 2023 18:13:28 #
terryMc wrote:
I started in Photoshop with the first version for Windows, which I believe was 2.5, maybe 1992. I've had this ridiculous Lightroom argument before, and I'm not having it again.
Neither am I. I asked a simple question, got a nonsensical answer from a person who pushes LR.
Dec 14, 2023 18:32:07 #
Curmudgeon wrote:
Neither am I. I asked a simple question, got a nonsensical answer from a person who pushes LR.
You asked a question. I am the only person who answered that question using quote reply so I assume I am the person who gave a nonsensical answer. It doesn't seem nonsensical to me, nor was it intended to. Since you are not a LR user I pointed out one capability of PS that LR does not share.
It is true that I think LR/PS is the bee's knees and recommend it. However, I recognize that I am not the boss and there exist people with a different interest or orientation than I hold so I allow them full freedom to do their own thing.
Dec 14, 2023 18:35:40 #
Dec 14, 2023 18:36:41 #
DirtFarmer wrote:
You asked a question. I am the only person who ans... (show quote)
NOPE, I wasn't taking about you. Please read CH_CANONs post and my response to him, not you. I accidently hit the Reply button instead of the Quote Reply button
Dec 15, 2023 07:30:05 #
terryMc wrote:
I was just notified this morning that there was an update for "Photoshop Camera Raw." Is it now "PCR" instead of "ACR"?
I believe Photoshop Camera Raw is the name of the filter in Ps. It has the same features as ACR. ACR is a standalone program.
Dec 15, 2023 09:12:05 #
Jrhoffman75 wrote:
I believe Photoshop Camera Raw is the name of the filter in Ps. It has the same features as ACR. ACR is a standalone program.
I know that the filter version doesn't have all the features of the plug-in (e.g. you can't crop in the filter) but does it have the camera and lens profiles? This update was for new cameras, and I don't see where in the filter you would apply that. I know it applies to the Photoshop and Bridge plug-ins, and these have always been called "Adobe" Camera Raw. Also, I have never seen an update just to the filter that other versions (including Lightroom) didn't get.
None of this is important, they can call it whatever they want. I just thought it was interesting...
Dec 16, 2023 11:58:20 #
DirtFarmer wrote:
PS can use layers and LR can't.
I don't use LR but layers is requirement for any full blown editor.
If it doesn't do layers then might as well use any simple, free editor, like IfranView or FastStone.
I can't imagine PS w/o layers?
Ease of use is a non-issue imo. All editing has a learning curve, that's at least half the fun.
If LR has any editing functions that PS doesn't, then that might have some significance.
Dec 16, 2023 12:02:44 #
BigDaddy wrote:
If LR has any editing functions that PS doesn't, then that might have some significance.
If LR has any editing functions that PS doesn't, then that might have some significance.
If Lr has any editing function that Photoshop doesn't, then it will be available via the Camera Raw filter.
Dec 16, 2023 15:24:10 #
BigDaddy wrote:
I don't use LR but layers is requirement for any full blown editor.
If it doesn't do layers then might as well use any simple, free editor, like IfranView or FastStone...
If it doesn't do layers then might as well use any simple, free editor, like IfranView or FastStone...
LR is NOT a full-blown editor. It is a capable Digital Asset Management tool coupled with a slightly more than basic editor. DAM is its primary strength (my opinion), particularly coupled with the ability to handshake with PS, which I believe fits the definition of a full-blown editor. It is the combination of those two tools that makes it useful to me.
IrfanView and FastStone are really basic editors. Their main weakness (other than lack of layers) is that they are Windows only, not supported by the Apple platform.
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