globetrekker Loc: Bend, OR

Greetings Hogs,

After 12 years of shooting with my Canon 60D, I’m ready to buy a new body. I want to experience the advantages of a full frame sensor. And since I’ll be upgrading to Lightroom Classic soon, I’ll need a camera that produces RAW files that are compatible with Classic. I want to stay with Canon because I know it, and of course my lenses are Canon mounts.

I think the EOS 6D Mark II is a logical choice for me. It has generally good reviews, is the lowest priced Canon full frame DSLR, and the next body going up in price is quite a bit more expensive.

I don’t know much about mirrorless, other than what I read from googling. It does seem that there are some advantages. I realize I may need an adaptor to be able to use my lenses. I’m not sure if mirrorless would be a good move for me now, or not.

Please share any observations or advice. Thank you.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

A few truisms of late 2023:

Never spend new money on old camera equipment, especially discontinued DSLRs.

An IBIS enabled mirrorless body is better than any DSLR.

The subscription Adobe software can handle every RAW file any past version of the software was able to support. The newest (ongoing) camera releases take anywhere for a few weeks to a few months to become fully supported for their RAW files in the next ongoing update to the subscription software.

The EF to RF adapter would allow you to use both EF-S and EF lenses into an EOS mirrorless body, where only your EF lenses are upwardly compatible to the EOS 6DII DSLR.

If budget limits your decision, a used DSLR is a viable alternative to a new MILC, but not if you need to replace EF-S lenses with EF lenses to make that full-frame move.

If your current lenses are mostly IS-enabled, the lack of IBIS in the EOS R10 might make that mirrorless body a viable option, staying at the crop-factor, giving you a step-up to a 24MP sensor. The slightly older EOS R and RP bodies give full-frame, more pixels, and again support for your EF and EF-S lenses, leveraging the lens IS for the missing IBIS.

The EOS R6 might be the logical full-frame, IBIS-enabled, MILC you're seeking, if within your price range, and along with the need for the EF-RF adapter.

In the EOS DSLR range, I'd only really consider that last and greatest EOS 5DIV. They're dropping into the sub $1500 range if you look around. Some lightly used copies will likely emerge here from the UHH community following the holidays, or even heavily discounted from Canon, and the online used resellers. EOS 5DIIIs, what I still shoot now after 9-years, are in the $800 range. It's a better camera than any of the EOS 6D bodies.

globetrekker Loc: Bend, OR

Wow, a lot to wrap my brain around here, and I am not fluent in these terms. Regarding lenses, I really only use two. I’m mostly a bird photographer these days, and for that I have invested in a Canon EF 100-400mm, which of course has image stabilization. For travel when I don’t want to lug my big, heavy, pricey Canon lens, or for occasional landscape photography (perhaps more of that in my future), I use my Tamron 16-300, which has vibration compensation (I had to google what VC on the lens means, lol.) With these two lenses, would I not need an adaptor if I bought the EOS R10? Would the R10 be a huge upgrade over my 60D? At under 900 bucks, that is less than I was expecting to spend on a new body.

The EOS R6 is quite a bit more expensive. Not out of the question, but it gives me pause. Would I need an adapter with that body? How much would the right adapter cost?

In general, are you saying mirrorless is the way to go if I can make it work? Can you flesh that out a bit? I want to enjoy an upgrade to full frame, but I don’t want to buy much more camera than I need, given my modest skill set.

kcooke Loc: Alabama

I have owned the M5, 7D2, 5D2, 6D2 and 5D4. I still have the M5 and 5D4. I really like my 5D4 a lot and will keep it indefinitely. The M5 will be sold. I have an R7 on the way. Personally I thought my 6D2 was a great camera for my needs at the time. Canon has a huge refurbished camera and lens sale going on right now. I purchased an R7 this morning at a smoking deal. Some examples are
6D2 $699
5D4 $1299
R6 mirrorless $1099 on back order
R8 mirrorless $999 back order. Here’s a link.

https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/cameras/refurbished-cameras?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAvJarBhA1EiwAGgZl0DSKFvpOYovBGSQrB_zL3yGYgtKOlOooN4toZkC6g7EREH-MxtiSuxoCgl8QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds&p=2

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

In EF mount I have 5Div, 6D(my first), 80D, 90D and 7DII + a pile of lenses. Now to that I have the RP full frame, simple controls but takes great images and R7 (R version of 7DII=for birds etc.) I have several RF lenses and adaptors for the EF to R body. I all work great. I am thinking of thining the herd by selling some EF bodies and lenses when I also have the RF version.
Best Buy/Walmart/Target has the RP on sale for $900 and with 24-105 $1200 at Canon Store Refurbished on line site.

Over the years I have bought several lens and a few cameras from Canon Refurbished, they are like new and have the same warrenty as new in box. I have never had a problem with one, a lot of other people swear by Canon Refurbished just like I do.
https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/cameras/mirrorless-cameras This is the site for Canon Mirrorless from their refurbished site as of 11PM PDT11-28-23. The refurbished items come and go rapidly so you need to check daily if what you want isn't there thr first time you look.

tcthome Loc: NJ

Depends on your budget. I'm guessing you don't want to spring for the R5 & consideration would be can your computer handle the 45mp raw files if you can make that purchase. FF mirrorless R6 or R6II might be a good choice if you can't get the R5.

bkwaters

I agree with the other comments - don't even consider another DSLR. Only mirrorless.

Unless you seriously need blurred out backgrounds or exotic lenses there's no major advantage to a full frame over APS-C. If you are willing to go with APS-C, I recommend the R50. Same autofocus as the R5/6/7 - and that's what really matters. If you really want FF, I recommend the R8. The less expensive R-series cameras are incredible values and unless you really need IBIS and dual cards, the higher models aren't superior. The R100 is older technology and I do not recommend it.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Can’t agree with that. How about low light/high ISO performance and DR?

brentrh Loc: Deltona, FL

shot for many years with SLR switched to mirrorless retired my SLR. adaptor works flawless with all my lenses. If you are a serious photographer, and are upgrading you camera get a mirrorless camera that meets your needs for the photography you do.

MountainDave

If you shoot birds mostly, then mirrorless is a no brainer. You'll get vastly improved AF, tracking ability and eye detect. It's like cheating! I use a R5. My favorite birding lens is the RF 100-500. This combo will pick up the eye of a small bird in the middle of a bush in poor light! I did use an EF 100-400L II for a while but the RF lens is quite a bit better plus longer. You can get the same tracking with a R6 II but fewer features and pixels. All of your EF lenses will work better on a mirrorless. Spend some time researching all the options.

Jimmy T Loc: Virginia

This is Great info for you to digest.
The only thing that I would add is what RobertJerl had in his post below: https://www.usa.canon.com/shop/cameras/refurbished-cameras
Best Wishes,
JimmyT Sends

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

The R10 is the mirrorless continuation of the Canon product line that continued on from the EOS 60D. You'll pick up more pixel resolution and all the technical advances in ISO performance over the past decade+. The EF-RF adapter will work for both your Canon and Tamron lenses. The lens that competes, maybe, with the Tamron for your needs is the RF-S 18-150mm F3.5-6.3 IS STM, not as long, but no adapter needed.

Mojaveflyer Loc: Denver, CO

I transitioned from a Canon 5D2 and a T6 to a R and R7 body. The sensors in both cameras are about 50% bigger thant the DSLRs. There's a visible improvement in the images. I have EF lenses and bought an adapter for both bodies. I had some trouble using Photoshop Elements 2022 with the R7 but a call to Adobe Help Line solved the problem by helping me download a plug in for Elements. Problem solved.

globetrekker Loc: Bend, OR

Thanks for the tip. I assume refurbished bodies sold by Canon would be in excellent condition, right?

globetrekker Loc: Bend, OR

Ahh "like new", good to know. Does a given model become available frequently? Or might one be waiting weeks or more for a specific model?