tripsy76 Loc: Northshore, MA

The work takes all of about 10 minutes max if you know what you’re doing. And if you use AI to do it which is pretty easy to do, the laws are loose at best at assigning blame. You’d have to be pretty sloppy to get caught and have it lead directly to you. I would also imagine it would be fairly costly for you to take it to court. Too much grey area these days.

And just to be clear, you and I are probably on the same side of the argument where I would love nothing more than to find ways to make the thieves pay significantly more than they currently do. But unfortunately when it comes to AI, it’s still new and people in general don’t actually understand what it’s doing behind the curtain or if and when humans are involved at all. There are now algorithms that allow it to learn beyond the models that it was programmed and trained on when you start introducing generative algo prompting. It’s the Wild West and as someone who has to try to negotiate usage and rights management, I can tell you it’s a bit of a nightmare.
Makes me really miss my film days.

RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri

Thank you, I understand what you are saying. Often ethics lags behind technology.

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

In that case, why do you need AI? Obviously you're not happy with the results from your cameras.

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

I almost always feel I can improve the results from my cameras with post processing even if the capture was as good as it could be out of the camera. I have used Adobe's Generative Fill on small portions of my images, and I see that as just another tool to improve my photos, just as I did in the darkroom for most of my career in photography.

mindzye Loc: WV

There will be a whole new sub-category created of certifying the certifications. Simple business model logic based on contrived needs.
Probably at a reasonable price.

mindzye Loc: WV

Or tilling the soil prior to planting to make the process easier, or make a more amenable environment for the plant to grow> or amending the soil's nutrient content??

All in good practice. Art is art. So says Artemius the Geek from Chagrinopolis in the first century BC (before change)

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

Yes - I do the same - even with my Leica P&S and a great lens, but I try to stay within the boundaries of physical reality - so that my photographic skills? are not lost in pixel manipulation, which is what AI does.

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

Here is an example of Generative Fill I used. The first image is the original. I liked everything except the lower left corner, which seemed to need some more flower "stuff" in it. So I selected that area and ran Generative Fill without any text prompt. It gave me something that fit right in and balanced out the composition. I have used Content Aware fill before, but the new Generative Fill which uses AI is much superior. And what it did was obviously based on my photo and not some database of other people'a photos. I could probably have cloned in something from elsewhere in he photo, but that might have been noticeable and I doubt I could have done a better job.

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

I took a liberty (apologies) and cloned your original using PhotoFiltre - see attached - no AI.

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

I like what the AI did better, and I have no reservations about using it this way. If I didn't like what it did, I would have done it myself.

Delderby Loc: Derby UK

Yes - that I understand, however the cloning could also have been done similarly (down to preference).The real difference is that one is done by the photographer and the other is not. AI is not controlled except to give it a "get on with it" command.

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

I'm not going to avoid a tool which does a good job just on principle. If it doesn't do something I'm happy with, I won't use it. If others want to avoid AI, that's their choice.

RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri

Thats fine. My problem is those folks who accept the credit for the final output when AI was significantly involved. I suspect if their "creation was received in a negative light, we'd be hearing "that wasn't me, it was AI "