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Nov 23, 2023 07:18:00   #
Jsykes
 
I recently began to insert my own sky photographs into PS.

One of the frustrations I found with the existing PS layout is the inability to view sky options side by side, versus the need to scroll down to view each option within each sub folder (e.g., sunrise; sunset; blue skies etc, etc);

I contacted Adobe and shared a screen shot from a Serge Ramelli video that showed sky options displayed side by side under "Library" on the right-hand window. The Adobe guys couldn't find a way to replicate the Ramelli solution, so they arranged to call me back the following day.

By accident, my wife found an interim solution before the Adobe guys called back.

On the bottom right corner of the window (after you select "Sky Replacement" on the drop down menu in PS) there is a "faint" icon that, once selected, enables to you display the skies side by side within each sub folder but seems to be limited to a maximum of three images in each row; with further limitations as to how you are able to navigate this window/display around the image you are working on.

When Adobe called back:
1. They confirmed they had discussed the Ramelli Library "option" with their software team and indicated that it would/could be part of a future software update.
2. Additionally they recorded and scripted my comments on the existing interim solution that my wife found and indicated they would pass this onto their software team. Maybe this option is already known to many Hoggers; except for me and the Adobe guys I spoke with!

On this auspicious day, "I am thankful" to Adobe for their diligence even on such a relatively small issue.

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Nov 23, 2023 07:29:50   #
Jimmy T Loc: Virginia
 
Jsykes wrote:
I recently began to insert my own sky photographs into PS.

One of the frustrations I found with the existing PS layout is the inability to view sky options side by side, versus the need to scroll down to view each option within each sub folder (e.g., sunrise; sunset; blue skies etc, etc);

I contacted Adobe and shared a screen shot from a Serge Ramelli video that showed sky options displayed side by side under "Library" on the right-hand window. The Adobe guys couldn't find a way to replicate the Ramelli solution, so they arranged to call me back the following day.

By accident, my wife found an interim solution before the Adobe guys called back.

On the bottom right corner of the window (after you select "Sky Replacement" on the drop down menu in PS) there is a "faint" icon that, once selected, enables to you display the skies side by side within each sub folder but seems to be limited to a maximum of three images in each row; with further limitations as to how you are able to navigate this window/display around the image you are working on.

When Adobe called back:
1. They confirmed they had discussed the Ramelli Library "option" with their software team and indicated that it would/could be part of a future software update.
2. Additionally they recorded and scripted my comments on the existing interim solution that my wife found and indicated they would pass this onto their software team. Maybe this option is already known to many Hoggers; except for me and the Adobe guys I spoke with!

On this auspicious day, "I am thankful" to Adobe for their diligence even on such a relatively small issue.
I recently began to insert my own sky photographs ... (show quote)



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Nov 23, 2023 08:37:08   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
Jsykes wrote:
I recently began to insert my own sky photographs into PS.

One of the frustrations I found with the existing PS layout is the inability to view sky options side by side, versus the need to scroll down to view each option within each sub folder (e.g., sunrise; sunset; blue skies etc, etc);

I contacted Adobe and shared a screen shot from a Serge Ramelli video that showed sky options displayed side by side under "Library" on the right-hand window. The Adobe guys couldn't find a way to replicate the Ramelli solution, so they arranged to call me back the following day.

By accident, my wife found an interim solution before the Adobe guys called back.

On the bottom right corner of the window (after you select "Sky Replacement" on the drop down menu in PS) there is a "faint" icon that, once selected, enables to you display the skies side by side within each sub folder but seems to be limited to a maximum of three images in each row; with further limitations as to how you are able to navigate this window/display around the image you are working on.

When Adobe called back:
1. They confirmed they had discussed the Ramelli Library "option" with their software team and indicated that it would/could be part of a future software update.
2. Additionally they recorded and scripted my comments on the existing interim solution that my wife found and indicated they would pass this onto their software team. Maybe this option is already known to many Hoggers; except for me and the Adobe guys I spoke with!

On this auspicious day, "I am thankful" to Adobe for their diligence even on such a relatively small issue.
I recently began to insert my own sky photographs ... (show quote)


Good contribution on your part.

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Nov 23, 2023 09:19:04   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
I can't believe that the Adobe folks don't know how to expand their own box. After you click on the Sky: panel, just click and drag the "faint little icon" at the bottom corner to expand the panel to include as many skies as you wish.

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Nov 23, 2023 10:06:49   #
Jsykes
 
terryMc wrote:
I can't believe that the Adobe folks don't know how to expand their own box. After you click on the Sky: panel, just click and drag the "faint little icon" at the bottom corner to expand the panel to include as many skies as you wish.


Disappointing that while I took the opportunity to recognize the Adobe team in helping me to address a concern that I had, you took the opportunity to criticize them. Are you aware that employee turnover has been significant since COVID and that not everyone in an organization may be 100% au fait with all their processes? Secondly, I would suggest that not every hogger may be fully aware of this process as I wasn’t. Thirdly, I did comment on what I thought were limitations in terms of navigating the “window” and possibly Adobe may take notice for future enhancements. Not sure what your expectations are of postings in UHH but what I look forward to is finding a wide range of contributions that inform and consequently increase knowledge and understanding.

Happy Thanksgiving

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Nov 23, 2023 10:10:25   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
Jsykes wrote:
Disappointing that while I took the opportunity to recognize the Adobe team in helping me to address a concern that I had, you took the opportunity to criticize them. Are you aware that employee turnover has been significant since COVID and that not everyone in an organization may be 100% au fait with all their processes? Secondly, I would suggest that not every hogger may be fully aware of this process as I wasn’t. Thirdly, I did comment on what I thought were limitations in terms of navigating the “window” Not sure what your expectation are of postings in UHH but what I look forward to is finding a wide range of contributions that inform that consequently increase knowledge and understanding.

Happy Thanksgiving
Disappointing that while I took the opportunity to... (show quote)


Amazing.

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Nov 23, 2023 13:24:17   #
Jsykes
 
Jimmy T wrote:


Thanks

The "Ramelli option, if adopted by Adobe, would locate the side by side views (under "Library") to the RH panel, providing more real estate around the image that is being processed. Unless I am wrong (and I may well be) the current PS window when opened for the ability to display up to three images, covers part of the image in the main screen.

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Nov 23, 2023 13:24:44   #
Jsykes
 
lamiaceae wrote:
Good contribution on your part.



Thanks

The "Ramelli option" if adopted would locate the side by side views (under "Library") to the RH panel, providing more real estate around the image that is being processed. Unless I am wrong (and I may well be) the current PS window when opened for the ability to display up to three images, covers part of the image in the main screen.

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Nov 24, 2023 11:23:51   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
Jsykes wrote:
I recently began to insert my own sky photographs into PS.

One of the frustrations I found with the existing PS layout is the inability to view sky options side by side, versus the need to scroll down to view each option within each sub folder (e.g., sunrise; sunset; blue skies etc, etc);

I contacted Adobe and shared a screen shot from a Serge Ramelli video that showed sky options displayed side by side under "Library" on the right-hand window. The Adobe guys couldn't find a way to replicate the Ramelli solution, so they arranged to call me back the following day.

By accident, my wife found an interim solution before the Adobe guys called back.

On the bottom right corner of the window (after you select "Sky Replacement" on the drop down menu in PS) there is a "faint" icon that, once selected, enables to you display the skies side by side within each sub folder but seems to be limited to a maximum of three images in each row; with further limitations as to how you are able to navigate this window/display around the image you are working on.

When Adobe called back:
1. They confirmed they had discussed the Ramelli Library "option" with their software team and indicated that it would/could be part of a future software update.
2. Additionally they recorded and scripted my comments on the existing interim solution that my wife found and indicated they would pass this onto their software team. Maybe this option is already known to many Hoggers; except for me and the Adobe guys I spoke with!

On this auspicious day, "I am thankful" to Adobe for their diligence even on such a relatively small issue.
I recently began to insert my own sky photographs ... (show quote)


Yes Virginia, Sky Replacement is the bomb!



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Nov 24, 2023 14:16:35   #
Judy795
 
Thanks. I use the Ramelli skies occasionally and I didn’t know about this.

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Nov 24, 2023 14:36:17   #
Jsykes
 
Thanks

As I indicated, the Adobe software guys said they will evaluate the "Ramelli layout" option into PS with access via the RH panel. Ramelli seems to have simply used the PS Library option to display multiple sky options side by side but the Adobe support guys were unable to do so when we were on-line. If Ramelli made it work, then clearly the Adobe software guys will be able to do. The benefit from my perspective is that the existing drop down Sky Replacement window currently covers part of the image; made worse when you expand to three across (the layout I was unaware of)

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Nov 24, 2023 14:48:51   #
Judy795
 
Jsykes wrote:
Thanks

As I indicated, the Adobe software guys said they will evaluate the "Ramelli layout" option into PS with access via the RH panel.


I usually just look for something that fits the scene and goes with existing light direction and then just play with the sliders.

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Nov 24, 2023 14:50:36   #
Jsykes
 
Judy795 wrote:
I usually just look for something that fits the scene and goes with existing light direction and then just play with the sliders.



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Nov 24, 2023 18:39:48   #
alphadog
 
I am "curious", is your nickname derived from the Jack [Russell terrier] named Sykes on Midsomer Murders?

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Nov 24, 2023 18:55:25   #
Jsykes
 
Sykes is not a nickname it is my surname. Genealogy takes the family name back to Skaithwaite, Yorkshire in the 1700’s; somewhat disappointing for a Lancastrian even though I’ve lived in the USA since 1996. The Jack Russel maybe a distant relative LOL

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