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Starena in the Peep Show, One.
Nov 16, 2023 01:26:43 #
Timmers
Loc: San Antonio Texas.
This is a teaser as there are several in the set.
I needed this to be serial as there are multiple sets of ideas being presented.
"Clutter' as many tell me is NOT an issue. I know there are some who love to do simplistic images and by now I think most who have seen my work will understand that is not my "cup of tea".
On many levels there are many issues in play. One is obviously movement. Movement in the image can add so much to a dynamic. Mirror reflection another. Transparency of a view into the scene is another. Layering is important for dimensionality.
Mixing light sources as well as the use of over all color to remove one from what is often the 'norm' of color photography. This also leads to the use of color that is found in that of commercial/advertising in opposition to the craft and art world of color structure.
That which is expected is not what cuts into the revised notion of the standard model of slick presentation. It is the life blood of seeing with new eyes. It is what gives us new insight into what is new with a foot in our past as well.
Unlike many models, professional or amateur, a dancer brings all new perspectives to the work. This is not modeling, nor is it acting, it is performance at its finest, which one can understand is the unifying of both acting and modeling on a much higher level.
I needed this to be serial as there are multiple sets of ideas being presented.
"Clutter' as many tell me is NOT an issue. I know there are some who love to do simplistic images and by now I think most who have seen my work will understand that is not my "cup of tea".
On many levels there are many issues in play. One is obviously movement. Movement in the image can add so much to a dynamic. Mirror reflection another. Transparency of a view into the scene is another. Layering is important for dimensionality.
Mixing light sources as well as the use of over all color to remove one from what is often the 'norm' of color photography. This also leads to the use of color that is found in that of commercial/advertising in opposition to the craft and art world of color structure.
That which is expected is not what cuts into the revised notion of the standard model of slick presentation. It is the life blood of seeing with new eyes. It is what gives us new insight into what is new with a foot in our past as well.
Unlike many models, professional or amateur, a dancer brings all new perspectives to the work. This is not modeling, nor is it acting, it is performance at its finest, which one can understand is the unifying of both acting and modeling on a much higher level.
Nov 16, 2023 06:10:20 #
[quote=Timmers]This is a teaser as there are several in the set.
I needed this to be serial as there are multiple sets of ideas being presented.
"Clutter' as many tell me is NOT an issue. I know there are some who love to do simplistic images and by now I think most who have seen my work will understand that is not my "cup of tea".
Very nice image (as usual) I'd love to attempt this genre of photography but besides finding willing models, my biggest hurdle is not having any idea how to photograph someone without falling into cliche mode (I'm in no position to criticize ANY attempt at this art form since the photographer has at least found a willing model, it's just not something that interests me)
Your nude photography is so different from what I usually see. Truthfully, I didn't quite understand it at first (in retrospect, I guess that was because you weren't presenting work I've seen over and over) but now I get it, thanks to your above post.
I find myself saying that even if I had a willing model, I wouldn't have any idea how I would want to photograph her and to me, that's extremely frustrating.
Thank you and please keep doing what you're doing.
best,
Paul
I needed this to be serial as there are multiple sets of ideas being presented.
"Clutter' as many tell me is NOT an issue. I know there are some who love to do simplistic images and by now I think most who have seen my work will understand that is not my "cup of tea".
Very nice image (as usual) I'd love to attempt this genre of photography but besides finding willing models, my biggest hurdle is not having any idea how to photograph someone without falling into cliche mode (I'm in no position to criticize ANY attempt at this art form since the photographer has at least found a willing model, it's just not something that interests me)
Your nude photography is so different from what I usually see. Truthfully, I didn't quite understand it at first (in retrospect, I guess that was because you weren't presenting work I've seen over and over) but now I get it, thanks to your above post.
I find myself saying that even if I had a willing model, I wouldn't have any idea how I would want to photograph her and to me, that's extremely frustrating.
Thank you and please keep doing what you're doing.
best,
Paul
Nov 16, 2023 13:00:00 #
JimG1
Loc: Waxahachie, TX
I always feel like your photos are meant to tell a story, what others see as clutter, I view as background to enrich your story.
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Nov 16, 2023 13:07:56 #
Timmers
Loc: San Antonio Texas.
[quote=PaulW128]
It is of great interest to me your comments.
The art world is filled with people doing 'creative' things while walking along while in a deep sleep. The common sense of this is captured in the phrase "sleep at the switch". The worst thing that any artist can do is to repeat themselves, while others simply copy or repeat what others have done before them. For the common man this is what advertising, and the modern film industry does, all in the name of creativity.
The solution lies in that often not well understood action called rumination. To chew your cud over and again. To think, to delight in discovering what you did in the past and to have it inform future views. I know that the artificial plants hanging along the sides are acting like a framing element, that is what formalistic critiques would tell us, and yet it does not inform our understanding of the work.
These will help. First, Serena in the kiddy pool. This is where it began, a simple enough image.
Then came these in the same location. To get the image as I wanted it I used some powerful flash to over drive the sun. Yes, shot with full sun but the main light is above, one head on a Norman D2000 power base but a few feet from the subject. This had to create an output of about 5 stops above the shaded surroundings (this is just didactic). The big issues was not the plants in the water, it was getting the camera to be partily below water and to view above water. Not a creative, but mechanical thing. Nor was it original.
Years past I saw an article in Life Magazine explaining an image made for Eastman Kodak of a man fishing and his family on the sore supposedly on vacation in a national park. The view shows a bass in the stream that has just been hooked and the exited man in waders, his family behind watching as the even unfolds.
I remembered this image and readying about it being used for a huge image inside Grand Central Station. The inspiration was from that source, yet not entirely. As I began working through the set I discovered a small problem. The plants would not stay where I wanted them, they just floated about haphazardly. The solution was easy, all the plants were submerged in water along with zip lock storage bags and then attached by clear monofilament to the font of the aquarium.
Aquarium? Yes, the camera was inside an aquarium that was 'sunk' part way held down by cinder blocks so that it was partly submerged. This way the camera stays dry and the flash trigger signals the flash to fire. The plants are then placed so that they hover about the peripheral space of the scene of the mode; (ye, the same model, Serena).
These events span years when one includes the images I'm posting. This is how an artist works and how creativity evolve. One's past will be the foundation for the future works. It is always interconnected.
So then some new additions to the current posting image group.
Timmers wrote:
This is a teaser as there are several in the set. ... (show quote)
It is of great interest to me your comments.
The art world is filled with people doing 'creative' things while walking along while in a deep sleep. The common sense of this is captured in the phrase "sleep at the switch". The worst thing that any artist can do is to repeat themselves, while others simply copy or repeat what others have done before them. For the common man this is what advertising, and the modern film industry does, all in the name of creativity.
The solution lies in that often not well understood action called rumination. To chew your cud over and again. To think, to delight in discovering what you did in the past and to have it inform future views. I know that the artificial plants hanging along the sides are acting like a framing element, that is what formalistic critiques would tell us, and yet it does not inform our understanding of the work.
These will help. First, Serena in the kiddy pool. This is where it began, a simple enough image.
Then came these in the same location. To get the image as I wanted it I used some powerful flash to over drive the sun. Yes, shot with full sun but the main light is above, one head on a Norman D2000 power base but a few feet from the subject. This had to create an output of about 5 stops above the shaded surroundings (this is just didactic). The big issues was not the plants in the water, it was getting the camera to be partily below water and to view above water. Not a creative, but mechanical thing. Nor was it original.
Years past I saw an article in Life Magazine explaining an image made for Eastman Kodak of a man fishing and his family on the sore supposedly on vacation in a national park. The view shows a bass in the stream that has just been hooked and the exited man in waders, his family behind watching as the even unfolds.
I remembered this image and readying about it being used for a huge image inside Grand Central Station. The inspiration was from that source, yet not entirely. As I began working through the set I discovered a small problem. The plants would not stay where I wanted them, they just floated about haphazardly. The solution was easy, all the plants were submerged in water along with zip lock storage bags and then attached by clear monofilament to the font of the aquarium.
Aquarium? Yes, the camera was inside an aquarium that was 'sunk' part way held down by cinder blocks so that it was partly submerged. This way the camera stays dry and the flash trigger signals the flash to fire. The plants are then placed so that they hover about the peripheral space of the scene of the mode; (ye, the same model, Serena).
These events span years when one includes the images I'm posting. This is how an artist works and how creativity evolve. One's past will be the foundation for the future works. It is always interconnected.
So then some new additions to the current posting image group.
Serena in the kiddy pool.
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Nov 16, 2023 13:11:49 #
Nov 17, 2023 07:56:24 #
"Serena in the kiddy pool." and a photo of her as a 6 month child in a similar pool... One pure the other not? I will ask my Baptist minister in small town south for a decision and a full discussion for my edification. Perhaps a Sunday Serman subject with large poster behind him... now that would be interesting~!!!
Extending the Kiddy Pool innocence question: Was my mother a pornographer in 1936 when she mailed relatives photos of me nude at one month old on a blanket with a cute butt. At 20yeas old my butt was still attractive, the blanket bigger... Reverend Jones please explain what is sexual about the same superficial group of gluteal muscles covered by skin, no genitalia showing.
Starena's eyes in the Kiddy Pool photo do not look alive... Alive she is sexual, is she sexual if dead? Great philosophically confusing to society questions.
Our world is filled with people with dark rose colored glasses who never think about complexities...they just accept what they are told.
Extending the Kiddy Pool innocence question: Was my mother a pornographer in 1936 when she mailed relatives photos of me nude at one month old on a blanket with a cute butt. At 20yeas old my butt was still attractive, the blanket bigger... Reverend Jones please explain what is sexual about the same superficial group of gluteal muscles covered by skin, no genitalia showing.
Starena's eyes in the Kiddy Pool photo do not look alive... Alive she is sexual, is she sexual if dead? Great philosophically confusing to society questions.
Our world is filled with people with dark rose colored glasses who never think about complexities...they just accept what they are told.
Nov 17, 2023 09:02:21 #
[quote=dpullum]"Serena in the kiddy pool." and a photo of her as a 6 month child in a similar pool... One pure the other not? I will ask my Baptist minister in small town south for a decision and a full discussion for my edification. Perhaps a Sunday Serman subject with large poster behind him... now that would be interesting~!!!
dpullum;
Your posts are always enjoyable, funny and thought-provoking
Pls keep doing what you're doing!
Paul
dpullum;
Your posts are always enjoyable, funny and thought-provoking
Pls keep doing what you're doing!
Paul
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Nov 17, 2023 09:09:57 #
[quote=Timmers]It is of great interest to me your comments.
Tim;
Another great set! I especially love the pool shot. It really works for me on so many levels, I need to revisit it and take a closer look as to why I'm drawn to this (besides the obvious reasons of course)
And not only do you provide me inspiration, you also throw in occasional technical specs regarding how an image was conceived and shot- valuable for me!
Thank you
Paul
Tim;
Another great set! I especially love the pool shot. It really works for me on so many levels, I need to revisit it and take a closer look as to why I'm drawn to this (besides the obvious reasons of course)
And not only do you provide me inspiration, you also throw in occasional technical specs regarding how an image was conceived and shot- valuable for me!
Thank you
Paul
Nov 18, 2023 01:06:19 #
Nov 18, 2023 04:24:40 #
Timmers
Loc: San Antonio Texas.
[quote=PaulW128]
You boys! LOL!!!
Serena is not exactly a Buddhist, and certainly never a Baptist, she is an adherent of The Lord Krishna and like most in India she is a follower of Radha (Lord Krishna's consort).
The Lady Ayahuasca was deeply taken by her during her first travels with that 'material' that she taught Serena to properly play the copy of a ceramic flute she had that was a copy of a 10,000 year old flute. The head priest of the South American village she was in was so taken by the sound that he approached her and asked about her playing that ancient instrument while under the influence. He expressed his reverence for her experience.
She was incorporated the music into her musical performances, that is recorded and published as 'modern' sacred music recordings. She is a musician among the many talents she pursues.
Modeling is just a way of connecting the world in a visual manner to all that is sacred to this earth and life.
dpullum wrote:
"Serena in the kiddy pool." and a photo of her as a 6 month child in a similar pool... One pure the other not? I will ask my Baptist minister in small town south for a decision and a full discussion for my edification. Perhaps a Sunday Serman subject with large poster behind him... now that would be interesting~!!!
dpullum;
Your posts are always enjoyable, funny and thought-provoking
Pls keep doing what you're doing!
Paul
dpullum;
Your posts are always enjoyable, funny and thought-provoking
Pls keep doing what you're doing!
Paul
You boys! LOL!!!
Serena is not exactly a Buddhist, and certainly never a Baptist, she is an adherent of The Lord Krishna and like most in India she is a follower of Radha (Lord Krishna's consort).
The Lady Ayahuasca was deeply taken by her during her first travels with that 'material' that she taught Serena to properly play the copy of a ceramic flute she had that was a copy of a 10,000 year old flute. The head priest of the South American village she was in was so taken by the sound that he approached her and asked about her playing that ancient instrument while under the influence. He expressed his reverence for her experience.
She was incorporated the music into her musical performances, that is recorded and published as 'modern' sacred music recordings. She is a musician among the many talents she pursues.
Modeling is just a way of connecting the world in a visual manner to all that is sacred to this earth and life.
Nov 18, 2023 04:53:51 #
Timmers
Loc: San Antonio Texas.
[quote=PaulW128]
Let me help then.
It is the waters movement that surround her vibrating body, as it rests in the water; not to go too far yet, the circular shape of the pool (that which contains the water) reflexes like the classic description of what happens when one drops a pebble in to a still body of water, and the sympathetic wave motion that is produced. These waves are not canceling each other but are vibrating in a cord with each other. The water is visual showing you the vibrancy of a perfect form, the energy that is occurring as generated from the source, that os an extremely spiritual being.
As a crystal will vibrate the water surrounding it and so tune your vision to the vibration that is a type of harmony found in the healing force that pervades all around you, so does the water visual reveal the power of sympathetic vibrations that Serena in ecstasy is having and is transmitting through the water in which she is immersed.
Just imagine the powerful vibrations this person is capable of channeling after simple exercise pushing out through the heat of her muscles after an exercise session. Imaging being any number of physical interactions with a human presents that can alter the physical world around her persona. Such people are a extreme rarity for we humans to encounter. That is why I refer to her as Starena, but that name she received from her mother of Serena (Siren) is vary appropriate.
The question may be asked, is this image erotic? Of course it is, it is sexual, it is showing the raw power of life, of the living building blocks that is at the core of that which drives the creative power that is the universe. Of course it is sexual, it has to be, that is how we as humans are driven. We channel sex and sensuality to 'see' the face of creation without actually being able to look at the creative force that is the edge of creation. (In biblical terms, this is the meaning of the Metatron*, humans can not with stand the sound of the creation so another 'voice' must conveys that sound. The basses of all magic is sound, it is the closest point of grasping creation).
*Metatron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metatron#:~:text=In%20the%20Jewish%20kabbalistic%20tradition,the%20angel%20of%20the%20veil.
Timmers wrote:
It is of great interest to me your comments.
Tim;
Another great set! I especially love the pool shot. It really works for me on so many levels, I need to revisit it and take a closer look as to why I'm drawn to this (besides the obvious reasons of course)
And not only do you provide me inspiration, you also throw in occasional technical specs regarding how an image was conceived and shot- valuable for me!
Thank you
Paul
Tim;
Another great set! I especially love the pool shot. It really works for me on so many levels, I need to revisit it and take a closer look as to why I'm drawn to this (besides the obvious reasons of course)
And not only do you provide me inspiration, you also throw in occasional technical specs regarding how an image was conceived and shot- valuable for me!
Thank you
Paul
Let me help then.
It is the waters movement that surround her vibrating body, as it rests in the water; not to go too far yet, the circular shape of the pool (that which contains the water) reflexes like the classic description of what happens when one drops a pebble in to a still body of water, and the sympathetic wave motion that is produced. These waves are not canceling each other but are vibrating in a cord with each other. The water is visual showing you the vibrancy of a perfect form, the energy that is occurring as generated from the source, that os an extremely spiritual being.
As a crystal will vibrate the water surrounding it and so tune your vision to the vibration that is a type of harmony found in the healing force that pervades all around you, so does the water visual reveal the power of sympathetic vibrations that Serena in ecstasy is having and is transmitting through the water in which she is immersed.
Just imagine the powerful vibrations this person is capable of channeling after simple exercise pushing out through the heat of her muscles after an exercise session. Imaging being any number of physical interactions with a human presents that can alter the physical world around her persona. Such people are a extreme rarity for we humans to encounter. That is why I refer to her as Starena, but that name she received from her mother of Serena (Siren) is vary appropriate.
The question may be asked, is this image erotic? Of course it is, it is sexual, it is showing the raw power of life, of the living building blocks that is at the core of that which drives the creative power that is the universe. Of course it is sexual, it has to be, that is how we as humans are driven. We channel sex and sensuality to 'see' the face of creation without actually being able to look at the creative force that is the edge of creation. (In biblical terms, this is the meaning of the Metatron*, humans can not with stand the sound of the creation so another 'voice' must conveys that sound. The basses of all magic is sound, it is the closest point of grasping creation).
*Metatron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metatron#:~:text=In%20the%20Jewish%20kabbalistic%20tradition,the%20angel%20of%20the%20veil.
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