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Nov 2, 2023 01:31:56   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
Two questions posed to me that I can't answer:

1. God k**led most of life on earth in the great flood, but he allowed Satan to live….. Why?
2. God says he loves us but he gave us Cancer and Heart Disease …. Why?

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Nov 2, 2023 04:29:24   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
travelwp wrote:
Two questions posed to me that I can't answer:

1. God k**led most of life on earth in the great flood, but he allowed Satan to live….. Why?
2. God says he loves us but he gave us Cancer and Heart Disease …. Why?


I would guess he has a very mysterious sense of humor. Look at how he trolled Abraham.

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Nov 2, 2023 05:17:48   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
travelwp wrote:
Two questions posed to me that I can't answer:

1. God k**led most of life on earth in the great flood, but he allowed Satan to live….. Why?
2. God says he loves us but he gave us Cancer and Heart Disease …. Why?


Satan was a good swimmer.

The invisible man in the sky loves us but he loves big pharma more.

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Nov 2, 2023 05:26:17   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
Kraken wrote:
Satan was a good swimmer.

The invisible man in the sky loves us but he loves big pharma more.


He a funny guy alright.

Tom Waits - "God's Away On Business"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9mhsW5aWJM

One of Tom's gospel flip sides ...

Jesus Is Gonna Be Here - Blind Boys of Alabama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyA5GeSwWLo

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Nov 2, 2023 06:03:23   #
Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky
 
travelwp wrote:
Two questions posed to me that I can't answer:

1. God k**led most of life on earth in the great flood, but he allowed Satan to live….. Why?
2. God says he loves us but he gave us Cancer and Heart Disease …. Why?


The Great Flood was an accident.



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Nov 2, 2023 09:17:34   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
Fstop12 wrote:
The Great Flood was an accident.


You made me laugh.

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Nov 2, 2023 09:27:32   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
Texcaster wrote:
Tom Waits - "God's Away On Business"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9mhsW5aWJM


I've been on the internet a long time, but I never saw a video as weird as that !

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Nov 2, 2023 10:33:38   #
LinksUp
 
travelwp wrote:
Two questions posed to me that I can't answer:

1. God k**led most of life on earth in the great flood, but he allowed Satan to live….. Why?
2. God says he loves us but he gave us Cancer and Heart Disease …. Why?


I see you got a lot of "answers" from people of little to no faith. (L*****ts all of them I'm sure.)

1. Satan is a son of God just like Christ, you and I. In a nutshell, at the Great Council Satan was cast out for r*******n and took 1/3 of the hosts of heaven with him. He is a spirit without a physical body. In a word he cannot be k**led. Satan is part of the Plan of Salvation for mankind. Without Satan there is no choice. Choice and freedom to choose is essential to the plan. In this life we have the opportunity to choose who we will follow. We can choose to follow Satan or we can choose to follow Christ. If we follow Christ, there is the promise of life eternal and salvation which is eternity with Christ. If we follow Satan there is life eternal, (the Resurrection is Christ's gift to all of us) but your salvation will be a different sort.

2. Have you been reading the articles about Gen Z complaining that adult hood is too hard? They are moving back to their parents basement so they don't have to work or get their feelings hurt. Trials come to everybody, rich, poor, old young. It does not matter who you are or your station in life. Trials will come. The form of that trial is a crap shoot. Nobody knows what will happen. Trials (refiners fire so to speak) will do many positive things for you. How you endure them reveals character and strengthens it. Trials also make you humble, help you appreciate your life and realize that there is a higher power to which you can turn to and discover that it is real. Trials provide you with empathy and a desire to help other people going through what you have. Trials prove to you that you can do hard things in this life and not only survive but come out better for it. Who says that there will only be one trial happen in a lifetime? We have coddled this latest generation. They have not had to personally endure war, poverty or homlessness or loss of employment that prior generations went through. Why do they call the men and women who fought in WWII the greatest generation? Not because they fought in the war. It was because they fought, endured and survived something that was so horrible so we would not have to endure that. Yet here we are, less than 100 years later, after saying "Never again" , genocide of an entire people is the goal of the Middle East and there are kids who do not know anything about history or life cheering them on.

Trials of health are difficult because of the associated pain and suffering. Health trials do not always end up with the person becoming healed. Death is always a possibility. But the same things I said about non-health trials applies to this also. Health trials are also for those around you. Do your loved ones rally around you or do they flee? Maybe your health trial is as much for them as it is for you. Trials reveal character.

If you believe that there is no God, then death is very scary. But if you believe in Christ and his words, then death, as sad as it is, becomes a mere stepping stone to the next realm.

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Nov 2, 2023 10:38:29   #
Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky
 
LinksUp wrote:
I see you got a lot of "answers" from people of little to no faith. (L*****ts all of them I'm sure.)

1. Satan is a son of God just like Christ, you and I. In a nutshell, at the Great Council Satan was cast out for r*******n and took 1/3 of the hosts of heaven with him. He is a spirit without a physical body. In a word he cannot be k**led. Satan is part of the Plan of Salvation for mankind. Without Satan there is no choice. Choice and freedom to choose is essential to the plan. In this life we have the opportunity to choose who we will follow. We can choose to follow Satan or we can choose to follow Christ. If we follow Christ, there is the promise of life eternal and salvation which is eternity with Christ. If we follow Satan there is life eternal, (the Resurrection is Christ's gift to all of us) but your salvation will a different sort.

2. Have you been reading the articles about Gen Z complaining that adult hood is too hard? They are moving back to their parents basement so they don't have to work or get their feelings hurt. Trials come to everybody, rich, poor, old young. It does not matter who you are or your station in life. Trials will come. The form of that trial is a crap shoot. Nobody knows what will happen. Trials (refiners fire so to speak) will do many positive things for you. How you endure them reveals character and strengthens it. Trials also make you humble, help you appreciate your life and realize that there is a higher power to which you can turn to and discover that it is real. Trials provide you with empathy and a desire to help other people going through what you have. Trials prove to you that you can do hard things in this life and not only survive but come out better for it. Who says that there will only be one trial happen in a lifetime? We have coddled this latest generation. They have not had to personally endure war, poverty or homlessness or loss of employment that prior generations went through. Why do they call the men and women who fought in WWII the greatest generation? Not because they fought in the war. It was because they fought, endured and survived something that was so horrible so we would not have to endure that. Yet here we are, less than 100 years later, after saying "Never again" , genocide of an entire people is the goal of the Middle East and there are kids who do not know anything about history or life cheering them on.

Trials of health are difficult because of the associated pain and suffering. Health trials do not always end up with the person becoming healed. Death is always a possibility. But the same things I said about non-health trials applies to this also. Health trials are also for those around you. Do your loved ones rally around you or do they flee? Maybe your health trial is as much for them as it is for you. Trials reveal character.

If you believe that there is no God, then death is very scary. But if you believe in Christ and his words, then death, as sad as it is, becomes a mere stepping stone to the next realm.
I see you got a lot of "answers" from pe... (show quote)


Question: If Heaven is supposed to be a place for eternal happiness with God, why then was there a r*******n of unhappy angels conspiring to o*******w the status quo?

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Nov 2, 2023 10:42:17   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
LinksUp wrote:
I see you got a lot of "answers" from people of little to no faith. (L*****ts all of them I'm sure.)

1. Satan is a son of God just like Christ, you and I. In a nutshell, at the Great Council Satan was cast out for r*******n and took 1/3 of the hosts of heaven with him. He is a spirit without a physical body. In a word he cannot be k**led. Satan is part of the Plan of Salvation for mankind. Without Satan there is no choice. Choice and freedom to choose is essential to the plan. In this life we have the opportunity to choose who we will follow. We can choose to follow Satan or we can choose to follow Christ. If we follow Christ, there is the promise of life eternal and salvation which is eternity with Christ. If we follow Satan there is life eternal, (the Resurrection is Christ's gift to all of us) but your salvation will a different sort.

2. Have you been reading the articles about Gen Z complaining that adult hood is too hard? They are moving back to their parents basement so they don't have to work or get their feelings hurt. Trials come to everybody, rich, poor, old young. It does not matter who you are or your station in life. Trials will come. The form of that trial is a crap shoot. Nobody knows what will happen. Trials (refiners fire so to speak) will do many positive things for you. How you endure them reveals character and strengthens it. Trials also make you humble, help you appreciate your life and realize that there is a higher power to which you can turn to and discover that it is real. Trials provide you with empathy and a desire to help other people going through what you have. Trials prove to you that you can do hard things in this life and not only survive but come out better for it. Who says that there will only be one trial happen in a lifetime? We have coddled this latest generation. They have not had to personally endure war, poverty or homlessness or loss of employment that prior generations went through. Why do they call the men and women who fought in WWII the greatest generation? Not because they fought in the war. It was because they fought, endured and survived something that was so horrible so we would not have to endure that. Yet here we are, less than 100 years later, after saying "Never again" , genocide of an entire people is the goal of the Middle East and there are kids who do not know anything about history or life cheering them on.

Trials of health are difficult because of the associated pain and suffering. Health trials do not always end up with the person becoming healed. Death is always a possibility. But the same things I said about non-health trials applies to this also. Health trials are also for those around you. Do your loved ones rally around you or do they flee? Maybe your health trial is as much for them as it is for you. Trials reveal character.

If you believe that there is no God, then death is very scary. But if you believe in Christ and his words, then death, as sad as it is, becomes a mere stepping stone to the next realm.
I see you got a lot of "answers" from pe... (show quote)


It's truly amazing that someone from over 2000 years ago

had such a creative imagination to come up with this stuff.

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Nov 2, 2023 10:45:17   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Fstop12 wrote:
Question: If Heaven is supposed to be a place for eternal happiness with God, why then was there a r*******n of unhappy angels conspiring to o*******w the status quo?


They were bored, with nothing to do except sitting around on a cloud all day sipping wine.

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Nov 2, 2023 10:47:28   #
Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky
 
Kraken wrote:
They were bored, with nothing to do except sitting around on a cloud all day sipping wine.


Impossible! The promise is " A place of eternal Happiness", therefore, no boredom.

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Nov 2, 2023 10:47:52   #
LinksUp
 
Fstop12 wrote:
Question: If Heaven is supposed to be a place for eternal happiness with God, why then was there a r*******n of unhappy angels conspiring to o*******w the status quo?


I don't know if this is a sincere question or pearls before swine. But, I'll give it a shot.

It all comes down to choice and the freedom to choose. In the Grand Council there was a plan proposed to send God's children to earth and bring them back to Him. Satan proposed that everybody be forced to live God's laws, live that perfect life, then not one soul would be lost. But he wanted the glory for himself. Christ proposed that mankind would have agency to choose, but that in case we sinned, which we do, he would be the Savior that would pay for our sins and allow us back into His presence with all glory going to His Father.

Satan had choice and agency to exercise his choice. He convinced 1/3 of the hosts of heaven, who had their agency, that his idea was the way. Just like e******ns, choices have consequences even in heaven.

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Nov 2, 2023 10:53:56   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Fstop12 wrote:
Impossible! The promise is " A place of eternal Happiness", therefore, no boredom.


That sounds very brain-numbing to me.

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Nov 2, 2023 11:10:26   #
Fstop12 Loc: Kentucky
 
LinksUp wrote:
I don't know if this is a sincere question or just a troll. But, I'll give it a shot.

It all comes down to choice and the freedom to choose. In the Grand Council there was a plan proposed to send God's children to earth and bring them back to Him. Satan proposed that everybody be forced to live God's laws, live that perfect life, then not one soul would be lost. But he wanted the glory for himself. Christ proposed that mankind would have agency to choose, but that in case we sinned, which we do, he would be the Savior that would pay for our sins and allow us back into His presence with all glory going to His Father.

Satan had choice and free will. He convinced 1/3 of the hosts of heaven, who had their agency, that his idea was the way. Just like e******ns, choices have consequences even in heaven.
I don't know if this is a sincere question or just... (show quote)


First of all, it is a sincere question and what you are saying makes absolutely no sense to me. Sounds like a movie script to me. First there is a vast scene in the Universe where every Angel/Spirit resides in the presence of an Supreme being. This place via scripture is a place of eternal happiness, BUT WAIT! 1/3 of the natives are restless and there was a conspiracy to o*******w the Supreme being and claim all the glory. Essentially ousting the current administration and installing a new one with Satan as the head. For me, this is where it gets interesting. If God is the Supreme being, knowing all, seeing all, the Ultimate Being in all the Universe's, then he/she/it would have seen this coming and as Mr Wonderful on Shark tank says, "Crushed those bad angels like the cockroaches they were". This whole made up story, (my opinion), just doesn't make sense to me. It does make for interesting conversation though.

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