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Oct 23, 2023 14:31:33   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
Quora.com

Do you believe a higher power created the universe, or do you believe in just the Big Bang?


This is the guy who came up with the Big Bang theory:

No, not the guy to the left with the wild hair – that’s just Albert Einstein. The guy to the right with the weird collar. Yes, Georges Lemaître was not just an astronomer, physicist and mathematician; he was also a priest.

He figured out his theory based on Einstein’s general relativity and figured out that the universe could not be stable and had to expand or contract. Based on the evidence from Edwin Hubble that the universe was expanding, then distances in the universe had to be shorter in the past. And if you extrapolate far enough back into time, you will reach a point where all distances are zero.

Ironically, nobody liked Lemaître’s idea, not even Einstein himself at first. It sounded too much like “let there be light” to them – Lemaître was after all also a priest. Heck, even the name “Big Bang” was invented to mock Lemaître’s theory!

But eventually, evidence won over the sceptics, and now everyone accepts the Big Bang theory no matter if they believe in gods or not. Those who do believe in at least one god sees the Big Bang as how their god created the universe – the answer to the silent “how” following “in the beginning, God created the Heaven and the earth” (or equivalent creation myth in their religion).

The exceptions are a minority of mainly US Evangelical Christians who reject anything which contradicts their literal interpretation of their holy book, and some fringe scientists who reject Einstein’s general relativity.



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Oct 23, 2023 14:47:08   #
tramsey Loc: Texas
 
On a talk show a nun was asked that question. She answered, I believe in the big bang theory. God said, Let us create the universe and bang there was the universe. I think everyone in the place was laughing. I don't even remember who the host was, not Johnny. All I remember of him is that they were standing. But the big bang theory wins.

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Oct 23, 2023 15:15:21   #
OwlHarbor Loc: Pacific North West USA
 
Interesting question and the thought that comes to mind rather than what you believe is what do you know. I have spent years thinking about this question and those with faith and belief say they know just as much as many who believe there is no higher power. I know that I'm not sure anymore either way, higher power or not. To say that there was nothing and then something as in the big bang for me today seems like we are missing a lot of information and making the best guess we can. I understand that we should have respect for people and their ideas and beliefs. What I'm not sure of should we respect the lack of knowledge and the unwillingness to be curious and learn?

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Oct 23, 2023 15:32:26   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
tramsey wrote:
On a talk show a nun was asked that question. She answered, I believe in the big bang theory. God said, Let us create the universe and bang there was the universe. I think everyone in the place was laughing. I don't even remember who the host was, not Johnny. All I remember of him is that they were standing. But the big bang theory wins.



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Oct 23, 2023 15:33:07   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
OwlHarbor wrote:
Interesting question and the thought that comes to mind rather than what you believe is what do you know. I have spent years thinking about this question and those with faith and belief say they know just as much as many who believe there is no higher power. I know that I'm not sure anymore either way, higher power or not. To say that there was nothing and then something as in the big bang for me today seems like we are missing a lot of information and making the best guess we can. I understand that we should have respect for people and their ideas and beliefs. What I'm not sure of should we respect the lack of knowledge and the unwillingness to be curious and learn?
Interesting question and the thought that comes to... (show quote)


Good question.

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Oct 23, 2023 16:03:00   #
Dennis833 Loc: Australia
 
The Big Bang is just a theory. Is space really expanding! https://www.space.com/universe-expansion-could-be-a-mirage

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Oct 23, 2023 16:51:34   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
Dennis833 wrote:
The Big Bang is just a theory. Is space really expanding! https://www.space.com/universe-expansion-could-be-a-mirage


Los of theories out there.

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Oct 23, 2023 17:04:01   #
WDCash Loc: Milford, Delaware, USA
 
bcheary wrote:
Quora.com

Do you believe a higher power created the universe, or do you believe in just the Big Bang?


This is the guy who came up with the Big Bang theory:

No, not the guy to the left with the wild hair – that’s just Albert Einstein. The guy to the right with the weird collar. Yes, Georges Lemaître was not just an astronomer, physicist and mathematician; he was also a priest.

He figured out his theory based on Einstein’s general relativity and figured out that the universe could not be stable and had to expand or contract. Based on the evidence from Edwin Hubble that the universe was expanding, then distances in the universe had to be shorter in the past. And if you extrapolate far enough back into time, you will reach a point where all distances are zero.

Ironically, nobody liked Lemaître’s idea, not even Einstein himself at first. It sounded too much like “let there be light” to them – Lemaître was after all also a priest. Heck, even the name “Big Bang” was invented to mock Lemaître’s theory!

But eventually, evidence won over the sceptics, and now everyone accepts the Big Bang theory no matter if they believe in gods or not. Those who do believe in at least one god sees the Big Bang as how their god created the universe – the answer to the silent “how” following “in the beginning, God created the Heaven and the earth” (or equivalent creation myth in their religion).

The exceptions are a minority of mainly US Evangelical Christians who reject anything which contradicts their literal interpretation of their holy book, and some fringe scientists who reject Einstein’s general relativity.
Quora.com br br Do you believe a higher power cre... (show quote)


I'm an Evangelical Christian.
I believe God made it all
I think the Big Bang "Throry" is a great theory of part of how God did it.
The Big bang theory does not contradict the Bible in any way.
The Big Bang Theory does not answer the Unmoved mover question.
"Who or what caused the Big Bang?" I find it much more plausible that a Super Intelangance caused the most unexplainable thing that ever occurred. The existence of God answers the puzzling question of.
Why is there anything vs nothing?

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Oct 23, 2023 17:32:35   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
bcheary wrote:
Los of theories out there.


That's right. The serious ones never say "... and then a miracle happened." Electricity is good that way.

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Oct 23, 2023 17:56:38   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
WDCash wrote:
... I find it much more plausible that a Super Intelangance caused the most unexplainable thing that ever occurred. The existence of God answers the puzzling question of.
Why is there anything vs nothing?
Most humans need to understand the world around them. Super Intelligence is a good descriptor, but for me that means life forms exist throughout what we now call the universe. Or forms of "life" beyond our capability of understanding the word.

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Oct 23, 2023 18:00:05   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
WDCash wrote:
I'm an Evangelical Christian.
I believe God made it all
I think the Big Bang "Throry" is a great theory of part of how God did it.
The Big bang theory does not contradict the Bible in any way.
The Big Bang Theory does not answer the Unmoved mover question.
"Who or what caused the Big Bang?" I find it much more plausible that a Super Intelangance caused the most unexplainable thing that ever occurred. The existence of God answers the puzzling question of.
Why is there anything vs nothing?
I'm an Evangelical Christian. br I believe God mad... (show quote)



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Oct 23, 2023 18:01:36   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
Texcaster wrote:
That's right. The serious ones never say "... and then a miracle happened." Electricity is good that way.



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Oct 23, 2023 18:12:54   #
mikee
 
bcheary wrote:
Los of theories out there.


Not really. Many use the term "theory" a lot more loosely than scientists do.

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Oct 23, 2023 18:13:52   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
OwlHarbor wrote:
... What I'm not sure of should we respect the lack of knowledge and the unwillingness to be curious and learn?
Unwillingness to learn can be hazardous to one's health, society and political systems.

What happens if I stick my hand in this fire? What happens if we enslave millions of people? What happens if we commit genocide? Of course, sometimes we "learn" but are unable to change anyway.

Regarding the opening post, I'm fascinated with the information we're getting from the Webb Telescope. I think we don't have the vocabulary or point of reference to understand what or who started it all. Big Bang could very well be the "God" of Earth's religions.

Thinking about what comes in the next chapter (after we die) is intriguing!

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Oct 23, 2023 18:14:26   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
mikee wrote:
Not really. Many use the term "theory" a lot more loosely than scientists do.


True.

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