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Oct 19, 2023 16:17:17   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Last year in Scotland one we were hiking the coast of Loch Leven and I easily could have spent a few hours in one location. I got a few nice shots, (most with my iPhone), but would have loved to explore the possibilities.

The iPhones do a fantastic job with deep scenes like these since they can have an unusually large DOF.

But the first two shots show severely blown highlights in the bright clouds. You might want to reconsider your use of spot metering. Pattern metering might have avoided that.

And if you are shooting raw, go easy on the post processing. Apple will have already done a lot of that work for you.

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Oct 19, 2023 17:05:43   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
It is fun to be out and have a non-photographer ask what I'm shooting and to be able to help them see something they never considered: such as how reflections from a vehicle in a carport became four shrouded men standing in archways, surrounded by golden light.

Yes, my neighbors think I'm slightly off


Well, did they actually see that dangerously low-hanging hornet's nest right in the middle of the four men And the punchline to the joke was: "You're telling me I'm seeing sex everywhere But you're the one showing me all those sexy pictures " You can figure out the joke in your leisure time

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Oct 19, 2023 17:24:59   #
mffox Loc: Avon, CT
 
Amen, Brother!!

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Oct 19, 2023 17:34:40   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
joecichjr wrote:
Well, did they actually see that dangerously low-hanging hornet's nest right in the middle of the four men And the punchline to the joke was: "You're telling me I'm seeing sex everywhere But you're the one showing me all those sexy pictures " You can figure out the joke in your leisure time
Well, did they actually see that dangerously low-h... (show quote)
ROTFL


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Oct 19, 2023 17:34:55   #
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ELNikkor wrote:
Totally agree! Just had a "Fashion Shoot" assignment from "52 frames". 3 locations, (in my spacious back yard), 2 lenses in 15 minutes, the non-professional model in a hurry to "get it done, this is embarrassing!" (Sound like a wife being pressed into a role?) 2 shots worth keeping, one perfect for the assignment. Always "work the scene", sometimes drive back 3 times if a thought of a different angle/setting comes into mind while driving away.

Well, if wifey enlisted *your* services to sell fashions that she designs or that she merely distributes, then she "had it coming".

"Get it done. This is embarassing !"
"Get it done. This is embarassing !"...
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Oct 19, 2023 18:42:33   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
I think the point is not assuming you have the right position/angle. You’re not gonna know without moving around and looking.


"Getting" covers what you have said.

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Oct 19, 2023 20:36:08   #
Miker999
 
My first shot is usually a "record shot" very basic, the same as everyone else. With that shot out of the way, I can get down to business and really work the scene. With my recent camera , I try to adjust as much as possible in the camera, which drastically cuts down on time in front of a computer. It's still editing, just done before instead of after the shot and if it's only going to be posted on Social Media, the Jpeg is usually enough. (I got my first SLR in 1981, went completely digital in 2003 and mirrorless in 2018)

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Oct 19, 2023 22:31:16   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
selmslie wrote:
The iPhones do a fantastic job with deep scenes like these since they can have an unusually large DOF.

But the first two shots show severely blown highlights in the bright clouds. You might want to reconsider your use of spot metering. Pattern metering might have avoided that.

And if you are shooting raw, go easy on the post processing. Apple will have already done a lot of that work for you.


Well, since I have an iPhone 13 and it’s not the Pro version I would need a 3rd party app to shoot raw. I rarely use it for “real photography” so haven’t invested in an app. Using the iPhone was pretty much an afterthought and it was pretty much point and shoot. That was the one day I switched from the 12-40 lens on my OM-1 and replaced it with the 4-150 with the 2x TC because seeing some wildlife was promising, a promise that never really came to fruition. No otters that day. Besides the seagulls and cormorants, (birds I see often here), I saw one grey heron. It looked identical to a great blue heron without any blue.

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Oct 20, 2023 01:38:18   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Well, since I have an iPhone 13 and it’s not the Pro version I would need a 3rd party app to shoot raw. I rarely use it for “real photography” so haven’t invested in an app.

Even without raw you could have adjusted the image brightness enough to eliminate the overexposed spots in the first two images. You just needed to be aware of when that's necessary.

The others didn't have the problem because the DR of the scene wasn't as wide.

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Oct 20, 2023 01:44:12   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
selmslie wrote:
Even without raw you could have adjusted the image brightness enough to eliminate the overexposed spots in the first two images. You just needed to be aware of when that's necessary.

The others didn't have the problem because the DR of the scene wasn't as wide.


Well I’m sorry you’re disappointed. It was a quick shot and it wasn’t obvious from viewing the scene on the phone there were blown highlights. It didn’t keep the first one from being juried into a well regarded competition.

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Oct 20, 2023 02:16:27   #
tinwhistle
 
Work the acene. Being from central Wisconsin I find that my photography is a lot like hunting. When talking photography with "newbies" I remind them that there's a lot going on all around you. Turn around, for instance. How many times have I heard a fellow hunter say he didn't even know that big buck was only 50 yards in back of him. Earlier in this post someone said they didn't turn on the camera while in the car. Not sure I agree with that, hope I miss understood. I carry my camera with me all the time, never leave the house without it and it's always turned on.



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Oct 20, 2023 02:24:49   #
AzYooper Loc: Sun Lakes AZ (Almost Phoenix)
 
tinwhistle wrote:
Work the acene. Being from central Wisconsin I find that my photography is a lot like hunting. When talking photography with "newbies" I remind them that there's a lot going on all around you. Turn around, for instance. How many times have I heard a fellow hunter say he didn't even know that big buck was only 50 yards in back of him. Earlier in this post someone said they didn't turn on the camera while in the car. Not sure I agree with that, hope I miss understood. I carry my camera with me all the time, never leave the house without it and it's always turned on.
Work the acene. Being from central Wisconsin I fin... (show quote)


That was me. I agree to always be at the ready. I was using a little artistic license making a point that one doesn't need to be in a rush to start shooting. I was not referring to wildlife, etc., where the subject matter dictates when and where you shoot. I was talking scenic landscapes etc. That said, if an eagle pops up overhead, I'm ready. In the meantime. Go Packers. My handle, AzYooper, means I'm in Arizona, retired, but still a bona fide Upper Peninsula, UP Yooper at heart. BTW, I don't have the camera on in the car until ready for action. Why waste the battery? Always off, until raised to shoot. Like a gun safety.

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Oct 20, 2023 07:03:39   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Years ago, I took some courses from Lynda.com, and one of them featured a chapter called "Work the Scene." I've always remembered that. Unlike film days, when you had to make the most of every shot, today, we can shoot and shoot and shoot.

The idea behind "Work..." is that one shot is often not enough. I was just taking some pictures around the property outside, and I shot from lots of different angles. Shots that I thought would be good, weren't as good as shots that I took from other angles. Next time you're shooting something, try lots of different angles. You may be surprised at the results.
Years ago, I took some courses from Lynda.com, and... (show quote)


Yes Virginia, you should always shoot at different angles. Why not give examples of this? I will. In the image below I put the camera on the deck and tilted it up slightly.



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Oct 20, 2023 07:16:17   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Well I’m sorry you’re disappointed. It was a quick shot and it wasn’t obvious from viewing the scene on the phone there were blown highlights. It didn’t keep the first one from being juried into a well regarded competition.

Being limited to under one megapixel helped. Take a look at the full sized 12MP version.

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Oct 20, 2023 07:21:09   #
Miker999
 
billnikon wrote:
Yes Virginia, you should always shoot at different angles. Why not give examples of this? I will. In the image below I put the camera on the deck and tilted it up slightly.


Nice shot! It might also be a good candidate for B&W.





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