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Sep 26, 2023 14:46:15   #
OldCADuser Loc: Irvine, CA
 
I was just notified that version 25.0 of Photoshop was available, a version that is supposed to be AI enhanced. I've downloaded it, but haven't tried to dig out exactly what's changed. Is anyone here familiar with these changes? Have you tried anything yet? If so, can you provide some examples where the AI enhanced features were applicable?

Thank you in advance.

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Sep 26, 2023 14:50:49   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
OldCADuser wrote:
I was just notified that version 25.0 of Photoshop was available, a version that is supposed to be AI enhanced. I've downloaded it, but haven't tried to dig out exactly what's changed. Is anyone here familiar with these changes? Have you tried anything yet? If so, can you provide some examples where the AI enhanced features were applicable?

Thank you in advance.


It's basically the same as the Beta version that everyone has been using to get to Generative Fill and Generative Expand, just that now it is in the published main release. The tools work essentially just like they did in the beta, and the Remove Tool, which was previously released, has some tweaks. That's about it. If you had the beta and were using it, there won't be much more to learn.

If you are not familiar with the beta and Generative Fill and Expand, we can give you some pointers.

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Sep 26, 2023 15:59:26   #
kmpankopf Loc: Mid-Michigan; SW Pennsylvania
 
Photoshop Cafe and Photoshop Training channels on YouTube have a number of short videos on this.

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Sep 26, 2023 17:34:18   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
Also check out https://www.youtube.com/@AnthonyMorganti

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Sep 27, 2023 09:15:12   #
pithydoug Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
 
OldCADuser wrote:
I was just notified that version 25.0 of Photoshop was available, a version that is supposed to be AI enhanced. I've downloaded it, but haven't tried to dig out exactly what's changed. Is anyone here familiar with these changes? Have you tried anything yet? If so, can you provide some examples where the AI enhanced features were applicable?

Thank you in advance.


Every time yoou update there is a foot print summary of the changes.

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Sep 27, 2023 09:19:14   #
Jack 13088 Loc: Central NY
 
Matt K who is near the top of websites that I enjoy following that been hitting this release pretty hard lately, https://mattk.com/. A day of two ago he highlighted some outrageous failures where it generated complete nonsense. My take is it has potential for difficult background replacement and void filling when removing distracting objects. Only don’t count on it.

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Sep 27, 2023 12:49:21   #
kmpankopf Loc: Mid-Michigan; SW Pennsylvania
 
I played around with it when it was on Beta. I thought it worked well, but I'm not as pickey as some folks. For as many people who don't like it, I can find the same number who do. Like everything. But what I take away from this is instead of manipulating you photos with your stock, now you have access to Adobe's stock. There are definate drawbacks and room for improvement - but we didn't land on the moon on the first try. I am finding out there will be a COST to using the feature, but that will probably be another thread.
I created this photo with three queries - Dark Storm Sky, Boat Slips and Cloud to Ground Lightning.
I wasn't there, but here's the photo to prove it.
I probably won't use it much as it is. The biggest issue I have is the quality. It is getting better, but the more you enlarge the more itis evident. As far as the generative fill goes, in my testing the PS option FILL works just as good. But I'm not a professional.


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Sep 27, 2023 12:55:36   #
joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
 
kmpankopf wrote:
I played around with it when it was on Beta. I thought it worked well, but I'm not as pickey as some folks. For as many people who don't like it, I can find the same number who do. Like everything. But what I take away from this is instead of manipulating you photos with your stock, now you have access to Adobe's stock. There are definate drawbacks and room for improvement - but we didn't land on the moon on the first try. I am finding out there will be a COST to using the feature, but that will probably be another thread.
I created this photo with three queries - Dark Storm Sky, Boat Slips and Cloud to Ground Lightning.
I wasn't there, but here's the photo to prove it.
I probably won't use it much as it is. The biggest issue I have is the quality. It is getting better, but the more you enlarge the more itis evident. As far as the generative fill goes, in my testing the PS option FILL works just as good. But I'm not a professional.
I played around with it when it was on Beta. I th... (show quote)


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Sep 27, 2023 14:23:28   #
tgreenhaw
 
I added a flock of sheep to a landscape and they had no heads :-) I selected a power line and tower in an image and it removed them flawlessly with excellent pixel peeping quality.

I think the quality depends upon how significant a change you are making.

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Sep 27, 2023 16:23:23   #
terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains
 
tgreenhaw wrote:
I added a flock of sheep to a landscape and they had no heads :-) I selected a power line and tower in an image and it removed them flawlessly with excellent pixel peeping quality.

I think the quality depends upon how significant a change you are making.



I've generated some very weird shit with Generative Fill, and then I'll get a flawless background, or change of clothes for a portrait, like it was real.

Some of the YouTube gurus are questioning whether it should have been out of beta yet, and I wondered the same thing. One guy said in a video that the 2000 ppi limit applies only to text effects, and not to image generation, which remains at 1024. There is no text effects in Photoshop, that is a Firefly feature. Furthermore, if it is authorized for commercial use, what's with the "violation of guidelines" warning that pops up every time there is any skin in the picture?

This is great fun, but I'm just glad I know how to use the traditional tools also.

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Sep 27, 2023 17:39:23   #
Hal Masover Loc: Iowa and Florida
 
OldCADuser wrote:
I was just notified that version 25.0 of Photoshop was available, a version that is supposed to be AI enhanced. I've downloaded it, but haven't tried to dig out exactly what's changed. Is anyone here familiar with these changes? Have you tried anything yet? If so, can you provide some examples where the AI enhanced features were applicable?

Thank you in advance.


I've used it quite extensively. At first I was amazed but now having used it quite a bit, I avoid it. Here's why. 1) It's a bit like Forest Gump's box of chocolates. You never know what you'll get and not in a good way. So it's very hit and miss. But more importantly, 2) the resolution is very low. Zoom in on anything you've created and you'll see that the area created by Generative AI is mushy. It won't print large and I doubt it would score in any competition. And finally, 3) I got bored.

So I only use it when I can't think of another way. Generative expand is probably the most useful for me because I shoot a lot at night and don't always get enough in the frame. But even then I'm reluctant because of the low resolution.

What I find far more useful is the new Remove Tool. It's also AI and somewhat generative. It's kind of a cross between generative AI and the Spot Healing tool. I use it almost all the time. It's in the same group as the Spot Healing tool and the Healing brush.

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Sep 27, 2023 17:54:53   #
Hal Masover Loc: Iowa and Florida
 
terryMc wrote:
I've generated some very weird shit with Generative Fill, and then I'll get a flawless background, or change of clothes for a portrait, like it was real.

Some of the YouTube gurus are questioning whether it should have been out of beta yet, and I wondered the same thing. One guy said in a video that the 2000 ppi limit applies only to text effects, and not to image generation, which remains at 1024. There is no text effects in Photoshop, that is a Firefly feature. Furthermore, if it is authorized for commercial use, what's with the "violation of guidelines" warning that pops up every time there is any skin in the picture?

This is great fun, but I'm just glad I know how to use the traditional tools also.
I've generated some very weird shit with Generativ... (show quote)



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