Respiratory Syncytial Virus Infection (RSV) actual risk for those over 60
Sep 23, 2023 17:29:56 #
Please be aware that Pfizer Inc. has launched a massive marketing campaign in order to turn "massive" profits on it's RSV Vaccine. Yes older adults are at increased risk... However only your medical practitioner(s) can provide a knowledgeable judgement here.
If you have a background in the Sciences then please review this NIH National Library of Medicine article on RSV https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK459215/
However the Internet is now teaming with Pfizer "Spam" https://www.bewareofrsv.com/
Pfizer's Vaccine is going for up to $330 a hit
And guess who's right behind them... Yep GlaxoSmithKline
That's right folks https://www.rsvandme.com/ is a thinly conceded marketing effort via fear mongering by GSK who also wants a piece of the action.
Nothing against Pharmaceuticals folks... I'm likely still alive today as a result of what they have brought to the table. It's just that they have become profit driven to the point of generating sales for marginal effective medicinal agents that should only be prescribed by knowledgeable medical practitioners... A.K.A. Vaccines are not without risks... and only limited folks are qualified to make the call here...
Please ask you GP (General Practitioner) if the "New" RSV is appropriate and germane for your particular situations and current conditions...
Yes I'm in the "At Risk" group however I'm seeking guidance from my NP (Nurse Practitioner) before I pony up $330
This isn't an "Anti-Vax" post, just a wake up call to seek qualified guidance on the aforementioned
Wishing all good health and much joy and success on your journey...
If you have a background in the Sciences then please review this NIH National Library of Medicine article on RSV https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK459215/
However the Internet is now teaming with Pfizer "Spam" https://www.bewareofrsv.com/
Pfizer's Vaccine is going for up to $330 a hit
And guess who's right behind them... Yep GlaxoSmithKline
That's right folks https://www.rsvandme.com/ is a thinly conceded marketing effort via fear mongering by GSK who also wants a piece of the action.
Nothing against Pharmaceuticals folks... I'm likely still alive today as a result of what they have brought to the table. It's just that they have become profit driven to the point of generating sales for marginal effective medicinal agents that should only be prescribed by knowledgeable medical practitioners... A.K.A. Vaccines are not without risks... and only limited folks are qualified to make the call here...
Please ask you GP (General Practitioner) if the "New" RSV is appropriate and germane for your particular situations and current conditions...
Yes I'm in the "At Risk" group however I'm seeking guidance from my NP (Nurse Practitioner) before I pony up $330
This isn't an "Anti-Vax" post, just a wake up call to seek qualified guidance on the aforementionedWishing all good health and much joy and success on your journey...
Sep 23, 2023 18:52:25 #
You are absolutely right that Pfizer is on a massive campaign to get people to be vaccinated for RSV (having seen numerous commercials on TV for the vaccine). And for sure, the motive is to a large extent for profiting from their vaccine. I do question the review you link to, it seems not to have been updated (contrary to the date of publication) since these vaccines have been FDA approved (the papers says: "Vaccines for RSV and therapeutic interventions in RSV remain a target of intense scientific interest", not that they have been developed). Most physicians, nurse practioners, and other health care workers are so overwhelmed that not sure they can keep up with all the developments in medicine. In the "old" days, pharmaceutical companies were not allowed to advertise their vaccines and drugs. Now that they can, the goal is to have individuals ask their health care providers about new drugs/vaccines. This is not altogether a bad thing.
Like all vaccines, there is (hopefully) a much smaller risk from getting vaccinated than getting the disease. However no vaccine is 100% effective and the protection will decrease with time. If one has contact with newborns, there is also the risk of having a low grade RSV infection and passing it on to a baby who has little protection. A decision of whether the vaccine is worth the $330 is thus not clear. I probably will get the vaccine though not immediately (they just started giving it to people so will wait a bit and see). Since I am definitely in the category of over 60, and have some low grade asthma, I think the benefits outweigh the small risk and is worth the $330.
PS. A number of more recent reviews I found do discuss the benefits of the vaccine.
Like all vaccines, there is (hopefully) a much smaller risk from getting vaccinated than getting the disease. However no vaccine is 100% effective and the protection will decrease with time. If one has contact with newborns, there is also the risk of having a low grade RSV infection and passing it on to a baby who has little protection. A decision of whether the vaccine is worth the $330 is thus not clear. I probably will get the vaccine though not immediately (they just started giving it to people so will wait a bit and see). Since I am definitely in the category of over 60, and have some low grade asthma, I think the benefits outweigh the small risk and is worth the $330.
PS. A number of more recent reviews I found do discuss the benefits of the vaccine.
Sep 23, 2023 19:42:43 #
Agreed ricardo00... And I believe you are wise to wait until a larger "Trial" population is in play here...
Once the rollout is in earnest potential issues will indeed be unmasked which may have not be caught in the initial trials...
That said, because RSV is a newer vaccine, it may not likely be listed on an insurance plan's list of covered drugs yet, so you should check with your plan before making an appointment. Important Note: The RSV vaccine is covered by Part D of Medicare although not by parts A and B. However your flu and COVID-19 vaccines will still be covered by Medicare Part B (I plan on getting these asap). I hope this helps!
As for " A number of more recent reviews I found do discuss the benefits of the vaccine. "
Please quote source and provide a URL otherwise I consider this like so much else online as hearsay.
"The 16 million Medicare enrollees without Part D coverage may have to pay for the vaccine out of pocket, according to the New York Times.
The RSV vaccine does not yet appear on the CDC's adult immunization schedule. A spokesperson for Blue Cross Blue Shield told The New York Times that until the vaccine appears on the schedule, "it is up to each BCBS plan to decide if they want to cover."
Source: https://www.beckerspayer.com/payer/some-health-plans-dont-cover-new-rsv-vaccine.html
Documentation in virtually all medical inferences has become critical now... enough said.
Thank you for sharing ricardo00
Once the rollout is in earnest potential issues will indeed be unmasked which may have not be caught in the initial trials...
That said, because RSV is a newer vaccine, it may not likely be listed on an insurance plan's list of covered drugs yet, so you should check with your plan before making an appointment. Important Note: The RSV vaccine is covered by Part D of Medicare although not by parts A and B. However your flu and COVID-19 vaccines will still be covered by Medicare Part B (I plan on getting these asap). I hope this helps!
As for " A number of more recent reviews I found do discuss the benefits of the vaccine. "
Please quote source and provide a URL otherwise I consider this like so much else online as hearsay.
"The 16 million Medicare enrollees without Part D coverage may have to pay for the vaccine out of pocket, according to the New York Times.
The RSV vaccine does not yet appear on the CDC's adult immunization schedule. A spokesperson for Blue Cross Blue Shield told The New York Times that until the vaccine appears on the schedule, "it is up to each BCBS plan to decide if they want to cover."
Source: https://www.beckerspayer.com/payer/some-health-plans-dont-cover-new-rsv-vaccine.html
Documentation in virtually all medical inferences has become critical now... enough said.
Thank you for sharing ricardo00
Sep 23, 2023 20:06:06 #
RSV was discovered in 1956, nothing new..... been around for a while.
Mostly it affected children then.
Yes, adults can get it.
Good profits if they got everyone in the country (world?) to get a shot though.
Shingles shot anyone??????
Mostly it affected children then.
Yes, adults can get it.
Good profits if they got everyone in the country (world?) to get a shot though.
Shingles shot anyone??????
Sep 23, 2023 23:06:16 #
Longshadow wrote:
RSV was discovered in 1956, nothing new..... been around for a while.
Mostly it affected children then.
Yes, adults can get it.
Good profits if they got everyone in the country (world?) to get a shot though.
Shingles shot anyone??????
Mostly it affected children then.
Yes, adults can get it.
Good profits if they got everyone in the country (world?) to get a shot though.
Shingles shot anyone??????
Absolutely. If you’ve ever spoken with one of the many people that have had shingles (it’s not uncommon in older individuals), you’d adhere to the CDC’s, The Mayo Clinic’s (and my doctor’s) advice and get the two Shingrix vaccines.
Sep 24, 2023 00:19:30 #
AirWalter
Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
TriX wrote:
Absolutely. If you’ve ever spoken with one of the many people that have had shingles (it’s not uncommon in older individuals), you’d adhere to the CDC’s, The Mayo Clinic’s (and my doctor’s) advice and get the two Shingrix vaccines.
Yes indeed! My Aunt had shingles awhile back, God bless her heart, She has past on, but it tortured her for about 6 months. During that whole time she could hardly stand to wear a blouse or anything that would touch her back. Her time with shingles convinced me to get my two shingles shots.
Sep 24, 2023 07:10:01 #
TriX wrote:
Absolutely. If you’ve ever spoken with one of the many people that have had shingles (it’s not uncommon in older individuals), you’d adhere to the CDC’s, The Mayo Clinic’s (and my doctor’s) advice and get the two Shingrix vaccines.
My wife had a pretty severe case of shingles, and I can tell you it is Very Scary.
You can not stand to have clothes on the site of the outbreak.
It can appear anywhere on your body and it can take your sight away!
If you get your flu shot every year, a shingles shot is 10X more important
UHHers, please get your shingles shots . . . .
Best Wishes,
JimmyT Sends
Sep 24, 2023 07:35:10 #
I was surprised to see they are promoting getting three shots at the same time; seasonal flu, RSV, Covid Booster.
Sep 24, 2023 08:07:42 #
What really pushes my buttons is the television advertising for ALL drugs. Half the time I think I have everything these ads push. (Joke.) But, in reality, I am so offended that these Pharma companies are pushing their drugs constantly just to make money.
Sep 24, 2023 08:28:45 #
Sep 24, 2023 08:40:46 #
Rich2236 wrote:
What really pushes my buttons is the television advertising for ALL drugs. Half the time I think I have everything these ads push. (Joke.) But, in reality, I am so offended that these Pharma companies are pushing their drugs constantly just to make money.
Kinda seems that way doesn't it.
Sep 24, 2023 08:43:27 #
joehel2 wrote:
I was surprised to see they are promoting getting three shots at the same time; seasonal flu, RSV, Covid Booster.
Interesting, where?
My wife heard that we should get the RSV separate from (Covid and Flu).
(I didn't ask her where though.)
SO,,, who does one believe.....
(I think I'd go with separate.)
Sep 24, 2023 08:48:05 #
Longshadow wrote:
Interesting, where?
My wife heard that we should get the RSV separate from (Covid and Flu).
(I didn't ask her where though.)
SO,,, who does one believe.....
(I think I'd go with separate.)
My wife heard that we should get the RSV separate from (Covid and Flu).
(I didn't ask her where though.)
SO,,, who does one believe.....
(I think I'd go with separate.)
https://news.northeastern.edu/2023/09/18/rsv-covid-vaccine/
Sep 24, 2023 09:04:48 #
Triple G wrote:
https://news.northeastern.edu/2023/09/18/rsv-covid-vaccine/
Separate is what I would go with, for that reason.
If one gets too many at one time, it may be hard to differentiate which one "bothered" you.
Sep 24, 2023 09:18:04 #
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