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Sep 18, 2023 14:39:08   #
Darrell78
 
So it's been years since I have been on this site and honestly many years since I have really got to do what I have always loved "Photography". Taking care of my parents, uncles, friends and their families and just helping others out I put everything I loved to do on hold. Now I am taking time for me because the psychical and mental stress I have endured over the years really isn't healthy but I don't regret it either. I am trying to get back to where I once was and that was just enjoying the visuals life has to offer and capture those moments. I can't say I have one specific subject as I have always been an all around photographer, when I was shooting that is. But overall I enjoy landscapes, wildlife "Birds", macro, indoor and outdoor portraits and sporting events which I hope to get back to as well.

The last or most recent camera I own besides my android is a *cough* Canon EOS 60D *cough* Now its still a good camera and so isn't my "hey look up there!" Canon EOS 40D... "oh you missed it." But a little outdated and I will agree the gear doesn't make the photographer although good lenses can sure help. "Is the L series lenses calling me a loser?"

So I need help in finding a new camera and I prefer to stay with Canon because of the lenses I have acquired when I was getting into it at the time. One thing is I kind of want to get a Full Frame camera because I have never owned one and I have always got crop factor cameras which with a telephoto lens in wildlife is a bonus.

So I have been looking at these cameras and reading up and watching videos on them and if you can help give me better suggestions I am all ears. Ones I have been looking at are and in this order in what I though about getting.

1. Canon EOS R6 Mark II
2. Canon EOS R8
3. Canon EOS RP
4. Canon DSLR 5D Mark IV
5. Canon DSLR 6D Mark II

The last two are much older cameras. I think they still have some value but will become outdated years down the road. I would put the R6 up there but the price comparison to the R6 Mark II to is not much difference. I also wouldn't mind having good video but don't plan to record movies just maybe tidbits of family get together with things like Birthdays, 4th of July, and Christmas or small event's like that.

So any advice or suggestions or if you own one of the cameras mentioned if you have likes or dislikes about any of them please let me know and if you have other canon camera suggestions I am all ears.
Now if you lucky I'll post some horrible blinding photos I have took with my android during all those years of Real camera absence. Unless you fell that is a punishment then I won't. To Everyone "Have a wonderful day."

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Sep 18, 2023 14:44:01   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
A minor note, and perhaps you already know this - you'll have to get an adapter to use your EF lenses with an R-series camera. Not a big deal - I do it.

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Sep 18, 2023 14:55:46   #
Darrell78
 
Thank you for your reply. Yes I did know about that but still good to mention it. I also seen somewhere that Canon will not let Tamron and Sigma have adapters to some of the mirror less cameras. I don't know to much about that but I only have one Tamron lens and not sure If I spelled those lenses correctly.

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Sep 18, 2023 15:10:03   #
PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA
 
Anoter quick note, if you have been using crop sensor cameras and have the crop lenses they will create vignettes at the shorter focal lengths on a full frame camera.

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Sep 18, 2023 15:40:32   #
madpaddler Loc: Near Seattle, Washington
 
[quote=Darrell78]

Darrell:
I went through this process a few months ago. I have a Canon 5D mk2 converted to Infrared, 6D mk2 and purchased a Canon R8 after months of struggling. I had my eye on the Canon R6 mk2 but thought I could live without two (2) card slots and In-body-stabilization (IBIS) as I had never had them in the past and never had a card failure at all. Knock on Wood!

The R8 has worked very well for me so far as the guts of this camera are the same as the R6mk2 and I save about $1,000 over the R6mk2. The only complaint I have is that I shoot with back button focus and when I do that on the R8 I find the location AF-On button is just a little far to the right as opposed to the full body DSLR bodies. But I will get used to it over time. Of course, that is because the R8 camera uses the RP body.

Good Luck on your new adventure!

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Sep 18, 2023 15:50:45   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
I just read an article about the 90D. Glowing report saying it's better than the Canon mirrorless line-up. It's not a new camera so a body can be had for around $1000. I'm a Nikon Guy, but if I wasn't, I would be looking for one right now.

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Sep 18, 2023 15:59:12   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Your list of candidate cameras are all full-frame, while your older EOS models are cropped (40D, 60D). If cost is an issue, consider whether you have issues in your existing EF-S lenses for these candidate FF models, making the total cost higher. Although the EF-RF adapter allows the EF-S onto the full frame bodies, that's a lot of money to spend to have the camera automatically crop your image files to a lower pixel resolution because of the vignette.

When deciding to change to FF, will the loss of the crop factor be an issue? For general purpose photography, probably / unlikely not. But, for sports / wildlife, maybe?

Finally, make sure you get a mirrorless body with IBIS included. That would nix the older DSLRs, the RP, and the R8. The EOS R7 is the only cropped mirrorless option with IBIS, currently.

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Sep 18, 2023 16:10:03   #
Darrell78
 
PhotogHobbyist wrote:
Anoter quick note, if you have been using crop sensor cameras and have the crop lenses they will create vignettes at the shorter focal lengths on a full frame camera.


Yeah this is something I actually don't know to much about and something I need to retrain my brain on. But I been looking at a couple of lenses for full frame I may purchase down the road or ask Santa to bring in exchange for cookies and milk lol.

Lenses I have now. Nothing fancy just They work lenses or came with.

1. Canon EF 100 - 400mm 4.5 - 5.6 L IS Ultrasonic
2. Canon EFS 17 - 85mm
3. Canon Macro EF 100mm 2.8
4. Canon EF 75 - 300mm 4 - 5.6
5. Canon EF 50mm 1.8
6. Canon EFS 18 - 55mm
7. Tokina AT-X PRO SD 12-24mm F4 (IF) DX
And Canon Extender EF 2x II

Thank you for replying.

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Sep 18, 2023 16:16:53   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Darrell78 wrote:
Yeah this is something I actually don't know to much about and something I need to retrain my brain on. But I been looking at a couple of lenses for full frame I may purchase down the road or ask Santa to bring in exchange for cookies and milk lol.

Lenses I have now. Nothing fancy just They work lenses or came with.

1. Canon EF 100 - 400mm 4.5 - 5.6 L IS Ultrasonic
2. Canon EFS 17 - 85mm
3. Canon Macro EF 100mm 2.8
4. Canon EF 75 - 300mm 4 - 5.6
5. Canon EF 50mm 1.8
6. Canon EFS 18 - 55mm
7. Tokina AT-X PRO SD 12-24mm F4 (IF) DX
And Canon Extender EF 2x II

Thank you for replying.
Yeah this is something I actually don't know to mu... (show quote)


I'd sell all the lenses. Live with whatever you can get for them. Get the RF 24-105 f/4L IS bundle with whatever FF body you select. Add RF lenses for whatever is desired after that, over time.

With an IBIS-enabled mirrorless body, keeping just the EF lenses via the EF-RF adapter is another valid option.

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Sep 18, 2023 16:22:05   #
revhen Loc: By the beautiful Hudson
 
Retired CPO wrote:
I just read an article about the 90D. Glowing report saying it's better than the Canon mirrorless line-up. It's not a new camera so a body can be had for around $1000. I'm a Nikon Guy, but if I wasn't, I would be looking for one right now.


Ditto.

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Sep 18, 2023 16:25:57   #
Darrell78
 
[quote=madpaddler]
Darrell78 wrote:


Darrell:
I went through this process a few months ago. I have a Canon 5D mk2 converted to Infrared, 6D mk2 and purchased a Canon R8 after months of struggling. I had my eye on the Canon R6 mk2 but thought I could live without two (2) card slots and In-body-stabilization (IBIS) as I had never had them in the past and never had a card failure at all. Knock on Wood!

The R8 has worked very well for me so far as the guts of this camera are the same as the R6mk2 and I save about $1,000 over the R6mk2. The only complaint I have is that I shoot with back button focus and when I do that on the R8 I find the location AF-On button is just a little far to the right as opposed to the full body DSLR bodies. But I will get used to it over time. Of course, that is because the R8 camera uses the RP body.

Good Luck on your new adventure!
br br Darrell: br I went through this process a ... (show quote)


Thank you very much. Yeah the two features I like about the R6 Mark II is the IBIS but also the joystick control on the back. But the price point for the R8 and how close it really is to the R6 Mark II with exception to Frame rate 6 FPS vs 12 FPS really is the only difference in my opinion. Dual card is ok but not necessary and you can do 2 batteries on both I watched a video on YT where I think it's the Canon R battery grip uses the same battery and the grip will connect to the R8 so you can have 2 batteries ready to go. Glad you like your R8 and thank you again for the information.

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Sep 18, 2023 16:56:02   #
Darrell78
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I'd sell all the lenses. Live with whatever you can get for them. Get the RF 24-105 f/4L IS bundle with whatever FF body you select. Add RF lenses for whatever is desired after that, over time.

With an IBIS-enabled mirrorless body, keeping just the EF lenses via the EF-RF adapter is another valid option.


I was thinking about selling some of them but I am sure some are worth maybe penny's and lint with used chewed gum. Not because of their condition they still look close to brand new today. I have the Danny Tanner full house syndrome of cleaning lol. The lens you mentioned is one I was thinking of getting but also thought about getting Canon RF 15-35mm f/2.8 L IS USM little pricey but be a great walk around lens.

But also consider these but need to review them more to see how well they can do for their price. I know the L series is top of the line with quality build but I think some cheap lenses can do good in the right situations.

Canon RF 24-50mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM - This one does come with one of the cameras mentioned which would be a good learning tool but the L lens are ons I been looking into a lot more.

Couple of small wide lenses for cheap I like that would be convenient to carry.
Canon RF 16mm f/2.8 STM
Canon RF 24mm f/1.8 Macro IS STM

But those are things I will get eventually but I first need to get the body or kit and learn the camera. Never used a mirror less and I am sure the new technology in these will be a lot different than what I am used to.

Thank you for the advice and information much appreciated.

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Sep 18, 2023 17:44:44   #
DebAnn Loc: Toronto
 
Darrell78 wrote:
So it's been years since I have been on this site and honestly many years since I have really got to do what I have always loved "Photography". Taking care of my parents, uncles, friends and their families and just helping others out I put everything I loved to do on hold. Now I am taking time for me because the psychical and mental stress I have endured over the years really isn't healthy but I don't regret it either. I am trying to get back to where I once was and that was just enjoying the visuals life has to offer and capture those moments. I can't say I have one specific subject as I have always been an all around photographer, when I was shooting that is. But overall I enjoy landscapes, wildlife "Birds", macro, indoor and outdoor portraits and sporting events which I hope to get back to as well.

The last or most recent camera I own besides my android is a *cough* Canon EOS 60D *cough* Now its still a good camera and so isn't my "hey look up there!" Canon EOS 40D... "oh you missed it." But a little outdated and I will agree the gear doesn't make the photographer although good lenses can sure help. "Is the L series lenses calling me a loser?"

So I need help in finding a new camera and I prefer to stay with Canon because of the lenses I have acquired when I was getting into it at the time. One thing is I kind of want to get a Full Frame camera because I have never owned one and I have always got crop factor cameras which with a telephoto lens in wildlife is a bonus.

So I have been looking at these cameras and reading up and watching videos on them and if you can help give me better suggestions I am all ears. Ones I have been looking at are and in this order in what I though about getting.

1. Canon EOS R6 Mark II
2. Canon EOS R8
3. Canon EOS RP
4. Canon DSLR 5D Mark IV
5. Canon DSLR 6D Mark II

The last two are much older cameras. I think they still have some value but will become outdated years down the road. I would put the R6 up there but the price comparison to the R6 Mark II to is not much difference. I also wouldn't mind having good video but don't plan to record movies just maybe tidbits of family get together with things like Birthdays, 4th of July, and Christmas or small event's like that.

So any advice or suggestions or if you own one of the cameras mentioned if you have likes or dislikes about any of them please let me know and if you have other canon camera suggestions I am all ears.
Now if you lucky I'll post some horrible blinding photos I have took with my android during all those years of Real camera absence. Unless you fell that is a punishment then I won't. To Everyone "Have a wonderful day."
So it's been years since I have been on this site ... (show quote)


I have a 6D Mk II - I don't consider it old. It's my main camera and serves me very well. I guess you have to decide how much money you'd like to spend before making a final decision.

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Sep 18, 2023 17:53:10   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Darrell78 wrote:
I was thinking about selling some of them but I am sure some are worth maybe penny's and lint with used chewed gum. Not because of their condition they still look close to brand new today. I have the Danny Tanner full house syndrome of cleaning lol. The lens you mentioned is one I was thinking of getting but also thought about getting Canon RF 15-35mm f/2.8 L IS USM little pricey but be a great walk around lens.

But also consider these but need to review them more to see how well they can do for their price. I know the L series is top of the line with quality build but I think some cheap lenses can do good in the right situations.

Canon RF 24-50mm f/4.5-6.3 IS STM - This one does come with one of the cameras mentioned which would be a good learning tool but the L lens are ons I been looking into a lot more.

Couple of small wide lenses for cheap I like that would be convenient to carry.
Canon RF 16mm f/2.8 STM
Canon RF 24mm f/1.8 Macro IS STM

But those are things I will get eventually but I first need to get the body or kit and learn the camera. Never used a mirror less and I am sure the new technology in these will be a lot different than what I am used to.

Thank you for the advice and information much appreciated.
I was thinking about selling some of them but I am... (show quote)


My point is that if considering full-frame mirrorless, go all in, and not worrying about keeping old equipment, especially anything you're unlikely ever to use again. I love my EF 16-35 f/4L IS, an option via the adapter, or the corresponding RF version. The RF 15-35 f/2.8L is a highly regarded lens. But, that wide aperture is unnecessary for the price, unless shooting sports / events indoors. The RF primes are great value, including wide apertures.

There's a lot of options. I still think IBIS is a must, because of how many legacy lenses the body then enables with stabilization support.

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Sep 18, 2023 18:26:49   #
Zooman 1
 
I use the R5, R7, and R10. I use the R7 most of the time when doing serious photography, out of the house photos. For most of my backyard or walk around photography I use the R10. The R5 comes with me when I am very serious.

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