More waste of our time and money (Page 2): The OP has said nothing that would classify as attic material. That would come from radicals that are unable to hear anything that is counter...

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Timmers wrote:

Careful, you gona get this put in the 'attic' section. And to help it along, your vision is a little short my friend.

The OP has said nothing that would classify as attic material. That would come from radicals that are unable to hear anything that is counter to their sacred cow agendas and then debate with civility instead of deliberately sabotaging a thread.

Canisdirus

This is a lesson which should have been learned early in life...

Anytime science studies something...anything...
It discovers answers to questions it had not even thought of...along the way.
Many of these discoveries are picked up on by other scientific fields...looking at the data in a different way.

Going to the moon...did a LOT more than just put us on the moon.

Again...this is a lesson that should have been learned early in life.

Haenzel Loc: South Holland, The Netherlands

Bridges wrote:

Who cares about where we came from in light of the... (show quote)

I couldn't agree more...Not to mention the pollution that comes with it, on our planet and in space..

alberio Loc: Casa Grande AZ

Bridges wrote:

In response to a post about new things found in th... (show quote)

I tend to agree. Researching ways to travel to distant planets and stars, when anything outside the orbit of Saturn seems futile.

Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI

I think what the OP is getting at is that deep space research cannot possibly provide a direct benefit. That is generally true, except for the possibility that the technology developed to do that research may (may) have a benefit. I can still broadly accept his point, though. Deep space research isn't going to help us much at home. Even exploration of our solar system will have little measurable benefit, in my opinion, save for the possibility that one day that research will spot a killer asteroid before it kills us.

But I ask: Even if we shut down Hubble and the JWST. If all telescopes that were dedicated to exploring deep space were moth-balled, would those released funds be directed to feeding the poor and reinforcing our infrastructure against climate change? Sadly, I doubt it. Even if they were channeled to those ends, the effect would be very small.

SteveFranz Loc: Durham, NC

photon-collector wrote:

This seems a bit like the old complaint, "why... (show quote)

Fotoserj Loc: St calixte Qc Ca

Simply using the money spent( lost) in space would go a long way in solving poverty in the US alone

Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado

photon-collector wrote:

This seems a bit like the old complaint, "why... (show quote)

Indeed!

And the true ‘payoff’ may be an increased interest and confirmation of the usefulness and benefits of scientific investigation—versus belief in ancient books, manuscripts and fables.

Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado

Canisdirus wrote:

This is a lesson which should have been learned early in life...

Anytime science studies something...anything...
It discovers answers to questions it had not even thought of...along the way.
Many of these discoveries are picked up on by other scientific fields...looking at the data in a different way.

Going to the moon...did a LOT more than just put us on the moon.

Again...this is a lesson that should have been learned early in life.

And it appears some persons have NOT learned the lesson(s) that general research (scientifically oriented investigations) has potential ‘payoff benefits’.

pendennis

Fotoserj wrote:

Simply using the money spent( lost) in space would go a long way in solving poverty in the US alone

Hardly. NASA's budget is minuscule compared to the social spending in the U.S. Poverty is only eliminated when folks go to work, earning money. The NASA budget hovers around .5% of the U.S. budget annually. Poverty spending amounts to nearly $1.1 Trillion, compared to $24 Billion on NASA. NASA spending yields valuable scientific research, and there's no benefit at all for the $1.1 Trillion spent on poverty.

Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado

pendennis wrote:

Hardly. NASA's budget is minuscule compared to the social spending in the U.S. Poverty is only eliminated when folks go to work, earning money. The NASA budget hovers around .5% of the U.S. budget annually. Poverty spending amounts to nearly $1.1 Trillion, compared to $24 Billion on NASA. NASA spending yields valuable scientific research, and there's no benefit at all for the $1.1 Trillion spent on poverty.

Right on!

Reuss Griffiths Loc: Ravenna, Ohio

The study of the cosmos, well beyond anything based on our solar system, is a natural laboratory for the physical sciences, physics and chemistry. This ranges from the study of subatomic particles up to the study of super galactic clusters and includes the latest discoveries about gravity, dark matter and energy and the possibilities of multiverses. From this knowledge, all else flows down to everyday inventions that will benefit all branches of the science and all mankind, now and in the future.

You sound like the person that wanted to close the patent office at the beginning of the 20th century because everything had already been discovered.

MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama

FredCM wrote:

Deep space exploration looks for an answer to David Byrne's question: "Well, how did we get here?" It also seeks an answer to dark matter and dark energy. No one knows, these 2 might have a huge impact on human civilization.

How bout learning to live peacefully with our fellow man.... From clubs to nukes; nothing changes. The military ind. complex could be transitioned to the Social industrial complex. We don't qualify to pollute the universe...