Questions About the Canon EOS R7
Sep 9, 2023 16:41:29 #
I am toying with the idea of purchasing a Canon EOS R7 with an RF (image stabilized) 100-400 lens. I would like to be able to grab the camera quickly to photograph a moving subject without having to worry about camera shake. Ken Rockwell says with the R7 "You can leave your tripod at home." But watching a U tube review of the R7, I noticed that the reviewer had a tripod. Of course, image stabilization cannot prevent blurring from subject motion (although increasing shutter speed can.) If anyone uses an R7, I would appreciate it if you could share your experience with the R7's image stabilization. Thanks. Davidb.
Sep 9, 2023 16:55:38 #
davidb1879 wrote:
I am toying with the idea of purchasing a Canon EO... (show quote)
I see that the R7 does have IBIS, which is clearly why Rockwell made his statement, but as you have already observed that would have zero effect when shooting a moving subject. The important question is whether it has a physical shutter or global shutter that would prevent problems with a moving subject.
Sep 9, 2023 17:13:51 #
davidb1879 wrote:
I am toying with the idea of purchasing a Canon EO... (show quote)
The image stabilization of the R7 + RF 100-400 is fantastic.
Sep 9, 2023 19:36:45 #
bkwaters wrote:
The image stabilization of the R7 + RF 100-400 is fantastic.
Sep 9, 2023 19:52:32 #
bkwaters wrote:
The image stabilization of the R7 + RF 100-400 is fantastic.
Also learn about Electroni First Curtain Shutter which helps avoid shutter shock. The R7 is a fantastic camera when you learn how to work around its limitations!
See the link below:
https://youtu.be/zDHR52bq3k0?si=6ZfKx56vgcyi0v8F
Sep 9, 2023 20:52:53 #
I treated myself to a R andR7 body this spring. The attached photo was shot two nights after the Super moon from my deck using the R7 body with my 100 - 400 mm EF lens. I processed it with Photoshop Elements including a final touch with DeNoise plug in. This was shot from my deck handheld. Shot at ISO 800, 1/80th, f22.
Sep 10, 2023 09:37:18 #
Good advice here. I had recently rented the R7, and was keen to use its rapid focus bracketing feature which I do hand-held (not on a tripod). It was disappointing since in that mode it forces the use of the full electronic shutter, at a high frame rate (30 frames / sec). The sensor cannot handle small movements in that combination -- even slight hand movements--, and as a result I got rolling shutter effect and my pictures were garbage. Rolling shutter is a significant challenge for photographing moving objects with an extremely fast electronic shutter but a not-so-fast sensor (not sure if I am saying that right, technically, but there is a problem, nevertheless).
So I would at least recommend that you RENT the camera first, and try it out for your intended use. Be cautious about the electronic shutter when shooting moving things. For me it was a valuable lesson.
So I would at least recommend that you RENT the camera first, and try it out for your intended use. Be cautious about the electronic shutter when shooting moving things. For me it was a valuable lesson.
Sep 10, 2023 10:51:02 #
davidb1879 wrote:
I am toying with the idea of purchasing a Canon EO... (show quote)
I have the R7 and EF 100-400mm L MII.
IS and IBIS combined allow for hand holding at longer shutter speeds than normal.
YOU must do your part and know YOUR limitations.
Image stabilization does not freeze action as you know.
You determine at what point you need a tripod. It really doesn't matter what camera or lens for this question. Each lens and skill and situation determines if you think you need a tripod.
PM me for further thoughts.
Sep 10, 2023 10:51:51 #
Mojaveflyer wrote:
I treated myself to a R andR7 body this spring. The attached photo was shot two nights after the Super moon from my deck using the R7 body with my 100 - 400 mm EF lens. I processed it with Photoshop Elements including a final touch with DeNoise plug in. This was shot from my deck handheld. Shot at ISO 800, 1/80th, f22.
f22 for the MOON ???
Sep 10, 2023 10:53:57 #
I only use a tripod when I want to use a very slow shutter speed to produce a desired effect. With equipment produced in the last ten years or so, you can shoot handheld at slow speeds that were undreamed of in years past. Newer cameras don't produce as much noise as before permitting using higher ISO values not to mention there are better noise reduction tools available in post.
Every year at an annual crane festival near here, I see most photographers using tripods. Meanwhile, I can quickly move around, go from standing to crouching or move side to side to get better perspectives. Tripod users are basically stuck in the mud. When it comes to shooting BIF, a tripod makes no sense. I would miss 95% of my shots. Duck hunters don't use tripods. Neither should photographers.
Every year at an annual crane festival near here, I see most photographers using tripods. Meanwhile, I can quickly move around, go from standing to crouching or move side to side to get better perspectives. Tripod users are basically stuck in the mud. When it comes to shooting BIF, a tripod makes no sense. I would miss 95% of my shots. Duck hunters don't use tripods. Neither should photographers.
Sep 10, 2023 10:58:27 #
MountainDave wrote:
I only use a tripod when I want to use a very slow... (show quote)
I learned this very early and is why I developed my bodypod for use with heavier lenses. Monopods are also better than tripods for mobility.
Sep 10, 2023 12:45:51 #
No matter the camera, you should own a good tripod. One example is macro work, where DOF is tiny, and a tripod gives demonstrably better results. I have an R7. It's a very good camera with very good IS. But, I still find plenty of situations where I choose to use a tripod.
Sep 10, 2023 13:02:11 #
imagemeister wrote:
f22 for the MOON ???
Do you think there is a problem with using F/22 for 35mm??
Sep 10, 2023 13:26:31 #
rehess wrote:
Do you think there is a problem with using F/22 for 35mm??
With all due respect, I kind of agree.. see below:
https://petapixel.com/2020/06/11/diffraction-explained-why-your-lens-is-worse-at-f-22-than-f-8/
Sep 10, 2023 13:33:34 #
Cueman
Loc: Gloucestershire UK
bkwaters wrote:
The image stabilization of the R7 + RF 100-400 is fantastic.
I agree with bkwaters. This combination is fantastic and I haven't had any problems.
Rob
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