OwlHarbor wrote:
I asked the question this evening, "Why do phones have more advanced technology than cameras" and part of the answer, "One reason why phones may have more advanced technology than commercial cameras is that phones have a larger and more diverse user base than cameras. According to a report by Statista1, there were about 5.22 billion unique mobile phone users in the world as of January 2021, compared to about 1.43 billion digital camera users in 2022. This means that phone manufacturers have more potential customers and more incentive to invest in research and development of new features and technologies for their devices"
Phones keep getting better and many are cheaper, the flagship phones continue to be the most expensive. I'm not getting rid of my Canon 90D and lenses but I'm very hesitant to change when really our newest cameras all brands are living in old technology compared to phones. In 1980 cell phones were a huge brick, with no text, no camera and they were dumb as a brick but they were a mobile phone. I read that the first shared cell phone pic was in 1997. Maybe the dates and info are off but the cameras we know and love/hate are falling behind and it doesn't appear that the big companies care or have a plan to meet the challenge. What are your thoughts?
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Because with their research they determine that the advances you talked about with the phones won't sell their cameras.
I like reading the replies and the original question, got me thinking that if we already have the smart cell phone tech and apps why not use them in cameras and update the camera touch screen to perform the same functions that can be done on a smartphone plus the functions of a camera sort of like a 2 in 1 device, it seem that you would have better lenses photos along with smart photo easy to use apps, plus with the ability to store higher memory storage to match what is possible on a smartphone. It might make more people upgrade there cameras for better tech and take digital cameras to the next level and demand.
lukevaliant wrote:
i'll put my camera against any cellphone camera !
I don't do well with my cell phone camera. The camera is better than I am. With a Nikon, it's a totally different story.
jerryc41 wrote:
I don't do well with my cell phone camera. The camera is better than I am. With a Nikon, it's a totally different story.
My cell phone doesn't have a camera. It does make calls though.
OwlHarbor wrote:
I asked the question this evening, "Why do phones have more advanced technology than cameras" and part of the answer, "One reason why phones may have more advanced technology than commercial cameras is that phones have a larger and more diverse user base than cameras. According to a report by Statista1, there were about 5.22 billion unique mobile phone users in the world as of January 2021, compared to about 1.43 billion digital camera users in 2022. This means that phone manufacturers have more potential customers and more incentive to invest in research and development of new features and technologies for their devices"
Phones keep getting better and many are cheaper, the flagship phones continue to be the most expensive. I'm not getting rid of my Canon 90D and lenses but I'm very hesitant to change when really our newest cameras all brands are living in old technology compared to phones. In 1980 cell phones were a huge brick, with no text, no camera and they were dumb as a brick but they were a mobile phone. I read that the first shared cell phone pic was in 1997. Maybe the dates and info are off but the cameras we know and love/hate are falling behind and it doesn't appear that the big companies care or have a plan to meet the . What are your thoughts?
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If you shoot wildlife phones have a long way to go.
"Why do phones have more advanced technology than cameras?" The answer is they do not! The problem lies in the question not the technology. Starting simply, smartphones are able to take outstanding images, process them on the spot and all with the convenience of being with you at all times. The camera on the other hand with its superior optics captures the image, but this where the story begins not ends. The image is then uploaded to superior processors that are able to accomplish what may appear impossible, certainly impossible for the smartphone. Combining the firepower of superior optics of the camera, CPU\GPU and software there is no point of comparison. The real beauty you should embrace both.
Bultaco wrote:
If you shoot wildlife phones have a long way to go.
Some cameras are better suited for different applications, desires, requirements, ergonomics,... .
Seems simple enough to me.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
OwlHarbor wrote:
I asked the question this evening, "Why do phones have more advanced technology than cameras" and part of the answer, "One reason why phones may have more advanced technology than commercial cameras is that phones have a larger and more diverse user base than cameras. According to a report by Statista1, there were about 5.22 billion unique mobile phone users in the world as of January 2021, compared to about 1.43 billion digital camera users in 2022. This means that phone manufacturers have more potential customers and more incentive to invest in research and development of new features and technologies for their devices"
Phones keep getting better and many are cheaper, the flagship phones continue to be the most expensive. I'm not getting rid of my Canon 90D and lenses but I'm very hesitant to change when really our newest cameras all brands are living in old technology compared to phones. In 1980 cell phones were a huge brick, with no text, no camera and they were dumb as a brick but they were a mobile phone. I read that the first shared cell phone pic was in 1997. Maybe the dates and info are off but the cameras we know and love/hate are falling behind and it doesn't appear that the big companies care or have a plan to meet the challenge. What are your thoughts?
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The simple answer to your question is that modern ‘smart phones’ are actually computers, that happen to have communicating as their primary purpose. I am ‘typing’ this on my iPhone - I seldom use my desktop computer to access this place any more. I believe the modern smart phone is more powerful than the computing power taken by the Apollo crews to the moon. The camera part of those phones can - of course - do all kinds of things that cameras don’t attempt to compete with.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
BebuLamar wrote:
Because with their research they determine that the advances you talked about with the phones won't sell their cameras.
and
would add perhaps $500 to the price.
rehess wrote:
and would add perhaps $500 to the price.
I don't think those features that you see on smartphones are expensive to implements but I believe those features can actually make the cameras less desirable.
MrBob wrote:
You would be amazed how popular vacuum technology is in audio circles nowadays... A lot of folks LOVE that sound as well as a lot of folks LOVE the look of diff. camera formats and diff. color science.... IMHo 1" sensors are going to be big coupled with AI.... But then I don't carry a suitcase and a bag of sticks around in the woods and a black cloth to cover my head... Lots of guitarist love that tube sag when pushing the older amps...
Vacuum tubes are alive and well. Still used in some ham radio applications
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
BebuLamar wrote:
I don't think those features that you see on smartphones are expensive to implements but I believe those features can actually make the cameras less desirable.
They have tiny computers, which are the major cost of a smart phone. Look at the price of a iPhone - the processor is the biggest part - adding the camera was a ‘bonus’ to the iPhone maker, making them today’s Instamatic 100 camera.
If you visit almost any bookstore today, you will find book after book about how to program an Android phone.
Next up, a mirrorless that you can make a phone call with and keep track of you stock portfolio. 😋😋
MrBob
Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
gvarner wrote:
Next up, a mirrorless that you can make a phone call with and keep track of you stock portfolio. 😋😋
My iPhone does all that... No mirror.
rehess
Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
MrBob wrote:
My iPhone does all that... No mirror.
An iPhone is also programmable - just like an Android phone - but Apple - true to their modern approach - uses a language {when I last looked; I retired nearly ten years ago, and haven’t bothered to keep up with a fast-moving field} available only on Mac computers.
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