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Outside enjoying my morning coffee - first time I've been able to do that without melting in quite some time - I was enjoying watching humming birds fighting totally unnecessarily over the multiple feeders.

Anyway, just for fun I thought I'd see what max zoom on my phone looked like - never used it before.

The first snap is zoomed in to 30x. A great image? Absolutely not. Not even an acceptable one, it just points where we are headed with cellphone cameras, just now in their infancy compared to conventional cameras, DSLR or mirror less.

The second one is taken from the same position, fully zoomed out, a couple of minutes later.

Will this replace my mirrorless? Not yet, but I'm sitting outside reading the news, with a 6 ounce computer, not 4lbs of camera costing 5x as much.

Very much looking forward to seeing where these devices progress to in the next 3-5 years.

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MDI Mainer

May be sooner that you think!

At a recent business briefing, President and CEO of Sony Semiconductor Solutions (SSS), Terushi Shimizu, noted that “still images [from smartphones] will exceed the image quality of single-lens reflex cameras within the next few years.” A slide from the same briefing points to 2024 as the timeline where Sony sees that smartphone “still images are expected to exceed ILC [interchangeable lens camera] image quality.”

https://www.androidauthority.com/sony-phones-overtake-dslr-2024-3173634/

Toment Loc: FL, IL

Still not believing…

flyguy Loc: Las Cruces, New Mexico

Iphone will never replace my DSLR.

NJFrank Loc: New Jersey

I’m not giving up my horse and buggy for one of those new fandango horseless carriage.🤪

StanMac Loc: Tennessee

Wouldn’t sensor manufacturers (Sony) also apply whatever innovations they develop for the tiny phone camera sensors to their ILC camera sensors?

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neillaubenthal

Might be plausibly correct for 1x or other native optical zoom in the phone…but for any sort of real wildlife telephoto shots physics because of the small phone dimensions and the very small pixels compared to fuller size cameras…physics will always, always win.

terryMc Loc: Arizona's White Mountains

I suppose that some day our bulky cameras will be gone, but not today. Today we have these:

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

I've never understood where the debate is, here. Dedicated cameras AND smartphones all have their advantages and disadvantages. I use both, and will continue to use both. Like JPEG and raw, and slides and negatives before them, I don't see an argument! They have different applications for entirely different workflow situations.

I'm eagerly awaiting the introduction of the iPhone 15 series on September 12, 2023, at 1:00 PM EDT. My iPhone 7 Plus is aging, as its operating system is obsolete, compatibility with the rest of the Apple ecosystem is waning, and its battery is down to 77% of original strength. I will replace it with one of the new offerings. And no, I'm not interested in an Android phone, because I use a Mac. There are too many benefits of the iCloud ecosystem to ignore. Most of the applications I use on the Mac have file-compatible iPhone versions.

My current iPhone has been a very capable device for casual photography. I've used it like a point-and-shoot on a regular basis. When I need the control and flexibility and lens versatility of an interchangeable lens camera, I use one. In many instances, I could use either, but I definitely know when I want to grab my Lumix.

The ultimate solution for me would be the full integration of a smartphone with a dedicated camera. The ability to use an iPhone as if it were an Atomos Ninja 5 or similar external monitor/recorder would be fantastic.

DickC Loc: NE Washington state

Good pics!!

Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA

I will believe it when the entertainment industry starts using cell phones to produce feature films and commercials. Many Youtubers use cellphones to produce their content so it is not too far off. But, changing the movie industry is like steering a super ship.. it takes time. You just can't turn on a dime or stop quickly.

wcmoorejr Loc: Birmingham Alabama

I have an iPhone 12 and feel the same way. I use my R7 for all of my professional work- but I will still use my iPhone and 7DII/R7 depending on what is best when I am on holiday.I went to Alaska a month before the R7 was released so I took my 7DII. I primarily used my 7DII but found in some of the museums, the iPhone was a much better choice. It shot wider than the 16-300 lens I had on the 7DII and could handle the longer exposers without bluring everything. A lot of the items in the display cases required a 1 second exposure. When someone offered to take a icture of me and my wife, i would have them shoot it on my phone because i didnt have to explain how to use BBS on the 7DII.

gwilliams6

Exactly. Those smartphones with their small sensor sizes, even the new 1" ones, and their small cameras (both overwhelming made by Sony, including in the top iPhones) rely on a lot of AI to try to overcome the physics in their inherent IQ limitations. Sony and other fullsize camera markers are applying some of that same AI into their larger sensor size cameras. So the gap is not widening, but closing between the AI-enhanced IQ of smartphones vs larger ILC camera images.

In Sony there are various divisions and they openly compete with each other, without corporate restrictions. So Sony's smartphone imaging folks will openly compete with the ILC folks, nothing new there.

There is only so much you can do with AI to overcome the laws of physics, and still keep the images looking real even if they aren't anymore. LOL

There will be a place for ILCs and all their versatility for a very long time IMHO.

Cheers and best to you.

Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana

Just as I do not rely on my camera to make phone calls…

azted Loc: Las Vegas, NV.

There was a feature length movie made with an iphone a couple of years ago. I saw it in the theatre and there is no way I would have known it was made any way different than most films I have seen. That ship has sailed!!