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Aug 27, 2023 15:06:33   #
Harry P Loc: United Kingdom
 
Hi,

I came back from Fairford a while ago and some photos to my eyes appear out of focus! I have attached a screenshot of a RAW photo as reference. I am confused as to why some of my photos appear to be out of focus and if any other aviation photographers may be able to help with improve on this problem. I shot this using 1/320th shutter speed for rotor blur. Is it truly out of focus because my D5100 is only 11 focus points, camera shake, shutter too slow is my cameras burst rate only being 4 frames per second the issue? I am saving up for a D780 upgrade and hoping that full frame, more focus points and 7fps CH may resolve this.



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Aug 27, 2023 15:15:22   #
JohnR Loc: The Gates of Hell
 
Doesn't look like camera shake more like it just hasn't focused. Do you have the camera set on continuous autofocus or single?

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Aug 27, 2023 15:29:00   #
Harry P Loc: United Kingdom
 
continuous servo

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Aug 27, 2023 15:44:00   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Hand held? If so, at 1/320th I'll go with camera movement.

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Aug 27, 2023 15:48:58   #
BebuLamar
 
Longshadow wrote:
Hand held? If so, at 1/320th I'll go with camera movement.


Yes because I think he use a long lens.

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Aug 27, 2023 15:51:37   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Harry P wrote:
Hi,

I came back from Fairford a while ago and some photos to my eyes appear out of focus! I have attached a screenshot of a RAW photo as reference. I am confused as to why some of my photos appear to be out of focus and if any other aviation photographers may be able to help with improve on this problem. I shot this using 1/320th shutter speed for rotor blur. Is it truly out of focus because my D5100 is only 11 focus points, camera shake, shutter too slow is my cameras burst rate only being 4 frames per second the issue? I am saving up for a D780 upgrade and hoping that full frame, more focus points and 7fps CH may resolve this.
Hi, br br I came back from Fairford a while ago a... (show quote)
What was the focal length for that shot?

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Aug 27, 2023 16:10:17   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Store the example files so we can analyze the EXIF. Otherwise, all you'll get is guesses, most of them wild.

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Aug 27, 2023 16:22:08   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Yes because I think he use a long lens.

Yea, that'll magnify any wobble.

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Aug 27, 2023 16:27:29   #
Harry P Loc: United Kingdom
 
sigma 150-600mm and it was shot at 600mm

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Aug 27, 2023 16:30:06   #
BebuLamar
 
For a 600mm lens on an APS-C the typical handholding shutter speed would be something like 1/1000. You can do a bit lower if you have steady hand. Me? I have to go higher than that I can't hold the camera very steady.

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Aug 27, 2023 16:33:55   #
Harry P Loc: United Kingdom
 
is that problem reduced on a full frame DSLR? also does a higher framerate on continous help too?

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Aug 27, 2023 16:40:41   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Harry P wrote:
is that problem reduced on a full frame DSLR? also does a higher framerate on continous help too?
Pleae use "quote reply". No. The general rule of thumb is the minimum shutter speed is 1/focal length but if you use a crop sensor you need to multiply that by the crop factor. And that is a minimum guideline. In this case I agree with Bebulamar, I think 1/1000 is more appropriate.

Higher frame rate might give you a better chance of getting a frame in focus.

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Aug 27, 2023 17:09:13   #
Harry P Loc: United Kingdom
 
JD750 wrote:
Pleae use "quote reply". No. The general rule of thumb is the minimum shutter speed is 1/focal length but if you use a crop sensor you need to multiply that by the crop factor. And that is a minimum guideline. In this case I agree with Bebulamar, I think 1/1000 is more appropriate.

Higher frame rate might give you a better chance of getting a frame in focus.


if you shot it at that speed, how you going to get prop/rotor blur, it will just be frozen

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Aug 27, 2023 17:21:09   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Harry P wrote:
if you shot it at that speed, how you going to get prop/rotor blur, it will just be frozen

Pick a poison....
Tripod maybe?

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Aug 27, 2023 17:42:30   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
BebuLamar wrote:
For a 600mm lens on an APS-C the typical handholding shutter speed would be something like 1/1000. You can do a bit lower if you have steady hand. Me? I have to go higher than that I can't hold the camera very steady.


Doesn't the Sigma lens have much-ballyhoed image stabilization? If so, I would expect 1/320 to be well within reasonable limits for hand-holding.

Also...the shutter speed guidelines derive from focal length and sensor density, not format. There is no per se reason to multiply by the "crop factor" just because of sensor size. There may be a reason to do so based on high pixel count, which indicates higher density. Don't believe that should be an issue with a D5100.

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