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Aug 21, 2023 04:18:13   #
imagextrordinair Loc: Halden, Norway
 
I am considering the Hasselblad X2D for crop factor and gear reduction. 100 mpx quality can make it feasible. I see Lieca is moving to a fixed lens with one or more of their models now, and marketing the idea of the crop factor vs an interchangeable lens is now something well beyond the old digital zoom of the past in fixed lens camera's.

I guessing as technology advances in camera sensors, interchangeable lenses will eventually become museum pieces. I realize sports and action is a whole different ball game but...

It is interesting non the less and wonder if anyone can comment on this in as an option in their professional work...

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Aug 21, 2023 04:37:26   #
Orphoto Loc: Oregon
 
Non the lens?

My landscape work routinely spans a wide range of focal lengths. Some cropping is fine, but not to that extreme.

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Aug 21, 2023 05:31:14   #
Capn_Dave
 
Interesting concept one lens and just using a high pixel count to do any crop required. I'm not so sure. I am thinking a wide angle lens for landscapes and then what?

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Aug 21, 2023 05:51:50   #
philmurfin Loc: Bakewell, Derbyshire UK
 
This was my question back in Oct 2012

With technology racing ahead at such a pace and camera chips getting ever higher definitions, I'd like your views on how you see things going over the next few years.
Do you think we will get to a stage when we no longer need a variety of lenses, will we simply through chip size, be able to use one fairly wide main lens and then crop the image to suit?

Thanks for your thoughts - Phil

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Aug 21, 2023 06:23:11   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
imagextrordinair wrote:
I am considering the Hasselblad X2D for crop factor and gear reduction. 100 mpx quality can make it feasible. I see Lieca is moving to a fixed lens with one or more of their models now, and marketing the idea of the crop factor vs an interchangeable lens is now something well beyond the old digital zoom of the past in fixed lens camera's.

I guessing as technology advances in camera sensors, interchangeable lenses will eventually become museum pieces. I realize sports and action is a whole different ball game but...

It is interesting non the less and wonder if anyone can comment on this in as an option in their professional work...
I am considering the Hasselblad X2D for crop facto... (show quote)


Why not flexible element lenses that change fecal length?
Only one lens then, no cropping and loss of quality.

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Aug 21, 2023 09:46:57   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Why not flexible element lenses that change fecal length?
Only one lens then, no cropping and loss of quality.


Not interested in lenses having anything to do with fecal anything!!

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Aug 21, 2023 10:38:40   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
Why not R5 40+

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Aug 21, 2023 12:29:49   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Cropping is a form of digital zoom. At the present moment in time (and with good optics), optical zooming produces better results than digital zooming. I don't see that changing any time soon. And digital zooming has significant limitations.

Even if your starting point is 100 MP, if you divide both the horizontal and the vertical pixel count by 2 (i.e. taking half the length and half the height), you immediately reduce the resolution to 25 MP. Do that again and you end up with 6.25 MP. Doing that amount of zooming optically would have a negligible effect on image quality and wouldn't result in a loss of resolution.

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Aug 21, 2023 13:16:41   #
Urnst Loc: Brownsville, Texas
 
Retired CPO wrote:
Not interested in lenses having anything to do with fecal anything!!



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Aug 21, 2023 13:22:35   #
cyclespeed Loc: Calgary, Alberta Canada
 
I recall listening to an ophthalmologist giving interesting facts about the human eye. One factoid I kept was the eye has the equivalent of 48 megapixels.
So I guess taking the first digital crop down to 50 will still loose nothing to our naked eyes viewing at any distance.

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Aug 21, 2023 15:26:06   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
R.G. wrote:
Cropping is a form of digital zoom. At the present moment in time (and with good optics), optical zooming produces better results than digital zooming. I don't see that changing any time soon. And digital zooming has significant limitations.

Even if your starting point is 100 MP, if you divide both the horizontal and the vertical pixel count by 2 (i.e. taking half the length and half the height), you immediately reduce the resolution to 25 MP. Do that again and you end up with 6.25 MP. Doing that amount of zooming optically would have a negligible effect on image quality and wouldn't result in a loss of resolution.
Cropping is a form of digital zoom. At the presen... (show quote)


We could also add that when you zoom in digitally you're zooming in on any noise and any lack of sharpness in the image, as well as the fact that a loss of resolution at that level will mean a significant loss of detail.

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Aug 21, 2023 19:16:50   #
jackpinoh Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
 
You would be better off with a full frame camera with a telephoto zoom lens--in both image quality and cost.

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Aug 21, 2023 19:55:50   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
jackpinoh wrote:
You would be better off with a full frame camera with a telephoto zoom lens--in both image quality and cost.



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Aug 22, 2023 05:34:33   #
Capn_Dave
 
jackpinoh wrote:
You would be better off with a full frame camera with a telephoto zoom lens--in both image quality and cost.


That is the way I see it too

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Aug 22, 2023 05:46:53   #
ELNikkor
 
Can guess anything, but won't happen, will always have interchangeable lenses; they provide many more variables than just cropping in.

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