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Aug 3, 2023 15:53:26   #
InfiniteISO Loc: The Carolinas, USA
 
Just got a notification that NOAA has stated this hurricane year might get uglier than first predicted.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/hurricane/accuweathers-updated-atlantic-hurricane-forecast-calls-for-more-named-storms-and-a-busy-time-ahead/1566249

We'll see. Anyone remember that last year we were supposed to have SEVEN hurricanes?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2022/09/01/atlantic-hurricane-season-forecasts-danielle/

Is it me, or is this a pattern? I remember a few years back when they named a few weak storms that had meteorologists scratching their heads. It seems NOAA is doing its part to play into the climate crisis narrative.

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Aug 3, 2023 16:19:38   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
Just got a notification that NOAA has stated this hurricane year might get uglier than first predicted.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/hurricane/accuweathers-updated-atlantic-hurricane-forecast-calls-for-more-named-storms-and-a-busy-time-ahead/1566249

We'll see. Anyone remember that last year we were supposed to have SEVEN hurricanes?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2022/09/01/atlantic-hurricane-season-forecasts-danielle/

Is it me, or is this a pattern? I remember a few years back when they named a few weak storms that had meteorologists scratching their heads. It seems NOAA is doing its part to play into the climate crisis narrative.
Just got a notification that NOAA has stated this ... (show quote)


Well it has been an unseasonably hot summer and if the reports of Manatee Bay registering water temps in excess of 100º are accurate I would say that any storms coming into Florida across that body of water will be devastating to any communities that might be in their immediate path.

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Aug 3, 2023 17:15:10   #
Triple G
 
Check with anyone who flies regularly or who works as inflight crew, they will let you know that air turbulence is getting worse.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2377658-turbulence-on-flights-is-getting-worse-because-of-c*****e-c****e/

"Buckle your seats, it's going to be a bumpy ride." The effects of c*****e c****e are not just "narrative", but are quantifiable in so many ways.

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Aug 3, 2023 19:00:32   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
Just got a notification that NOAA has stated this hurricane year might get uglier than first predicted.

https://www.accuweather.com/en/hurricane/accuweathers-updated-atlantic-hurricane-forecast-calls-for-more-named-storms-and-a-busy-time-ahead/1566249

We'll see. Anyone remember that last year we were supposed to have SEVEN hurricanes?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2022/09/01/atlantic-hurricane-season-forecasts-danielle/

Is it me, or is this a pattern? I remember a few years back when they named a few weak storms that had meteorologists scratching their heads. It seems NOAA is doing its part to play into the climate crisis narrative.
Just got a notification that NOAA has stated this ... (show quote)


Have you seen the ocean temperature lately?

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Aug 4, 2023 07:40:53   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Well it has been an unseasonably hot summer

An increase in global temperatures was predicted by scientists after the eruption of the Hunga Tonga–Hunga Haʻapai volcano in January, 2022. The eruption injected massive amounts of ash into the stratosphere and spewed at least 55 million tons of water vapor into the air to altitudes as high as 33 miles. Atmospheric water vapor is known to act like a blanket, trapping heat. So it is no coincidence that there is a prolonged global heatwave this year as the water vapor circulated globally over the past year. So this event, rather than c*****e c****e, likely accounts for the current heat wave. If so, g****l c*****g should occur once the excess water vapor has dissipated as rain, at least back to pre-volcanic eruption temperatures.

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Aug 4, 2023 07:44:08   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
David Martin wrote:
An increase in global temperatures was predicted by scientists after the eruption of the Hunga Tonga–Hunga Haʻapai volcano in January, 2022. The eruption injected massive amounts of ash into the stratosphere and spewed at least 55 million tons of water vapor into the air to altitudes as high as 33 miles. Atmospheric water vapor is known to act like a blanket, trapping heat. So it is no coincidence that there is a prolonged global heatwave this year as the water vapor circulated globally over the past year. So this event, rather than c*****e c****e, likely accounts for the current heat wave. If so, g****l c*****g should occur once the excess water vapor has dissipated as rain, at least back to pre-volcanic eruption temperatures.
An increase in global temperatures was predicted b... (show quote)

And how long do you anticipate that will take, oh wise one?

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Aug 4, 2023 07:50:28   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
And how long do you anticipate that will take, oh wise one?


I certainly hope it does not take so long that to allow Brandon to come for my gas appliances that I love even more than I h**e him.

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Aug 4, 2023 08:15:26   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I certainly hope it does not take so long that to allow Brandon to come for my gas appliances that I love even more than I h**e him.

They won't come for your current appliances, but replacing them at "end of life" might be difficult.

I grew up with electric stoves and water heaters, and an oil furnace.

My only experience with any form of gas, was my grandmother's stove which was half kerosene fired, and half propane fired. She mostly used the kerosene side, unless she was cooking large meals.

It wasn't until 2002 when I moved into a condo which was all gas fired that I was truly exposed to cooking with gas.

Now that I've moved into my own condo in an all electric building, I do miss that gas stove, but I don't miss the potential for an explosion when neighbors leave a burner dial on without a flame burning, which happened twice over the time I lived in my previous condo.

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Aug 4, 2023 08:27:44   #
Triple G
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
They won't come for your current appliances, but replacing them at "end of life" might be difficult.

I grew up with electric stoves and water heaters, and an oil furnace.

My only experience with any form of gas, was my grandmother's stove which was half kerosene fired, and half propane fired. She mostly used the kerosene side, unless she was cooking large meals.

It wasn't until 2002 when I moved into a condo which was all gas fired that I was truly exposed to cooking with gas.

Now that I've moved into my own condo in an all electric building, I do miss that gas stove, but I don't miss the potential for an explosion when neighbors leave a burner dial on without a flame burning, which happened twice over the time I lived in my previous condo.
They won't come for your current appliances, but r... (show quote)


Mostly electric here because cost of digging lines through rock was prohibitive and even digging to bury a tank is a pain. With TVA hydro power access and reliability, gas is not preferred. The induction cooktop and outside propane grill/stove/smoker/grill top give us all the alternatives and speed we like.

Back to subject---very interesting about the 2022volcano.

https://scitechdaily.com/tonga-volcano-eruption-to-have-smaller-cooling-impact-on-c*****e-c****e-than-first-thought/

This means that the eruption of HTHH will not be strong enough to overwhelm the longer term g****l w*****g tendency.

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Aug 4, 2023 08:45:53   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
And how long do you anticipate that will take, oh wise one?

Best to pose that question to the experts, rather than the messenger. But since you asked: perhaps many years.



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Aug 4, 2023 08:49:45   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Triple G wrote:
https://scitechdaily.com/tonga-volcano-eruption-to-have-smaller-cooling-impact-on-c*****e-c****e-than-first-thought/

This means that the eruption of HTHH will not be strong enough to overwhelm the longer term g****l w*****g tendency.

The article you reference, addressed only the effect of the volcanic ash, and concluded that the usual cooling effect that atmospheric volcanic ash has will be less than usual and unlikely to "overwhelm" g****l w*****g.

The article fails to address the massive water vapor injection into the atmosphere, which has a significant net warming effect.

Note in the abstract I posted above, the ash injection was not exceptional, whereas the amount of water vapor injected was unprecedented.

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Aug 4, 2023 09:44:48   #
Triple G
 
David Martin wrote:
The article you reference, addressed only the effect of the volcanic ash, and concluded that the usual cooling effect that atmospheric volcanic ash has will be less than usual and unlikely to "overwhelm" g****l w*****g.

The article fails to address the massive water vapor injection into the atmosphere, which has a significant net warming effect.

Note in the abstract I posted above, the ash injection was not exceptional, whereas the amount of water vapor injected was unprecedented.
The article you reference, addressed only the effe... (show quote)


Thanks, I'll check it out.

Wow.
https://climate.nasa.gov/news/3204/tonga-eruption-blasted-unprecedented-amount-of-water-into-stratosphere/

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Aug 4, 2023 12:50:09   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
They won't come for your current appliances, but replacing them at "end of life" might be difficult.

I grew up with electric stoves and water heaters, and an oil furnace.

My only experience with any form of gas, was my grandmother's stove which was half kerosene fired, and half propane fired. She mostly used the kerosene side, unless she was cooking large meals.

It wasn't until 2002 when I moved into a condo which was all gas fired that I was truly exposed to cooking with gas.

Now that I've moved into my own condo in an all electric building, I do miss that gas stove, but I don't miss the potential for an explosion when neighbors leave a burner dial on without a flame burning, which happened twice over the time I lived in my previous condo.
They won't come for your current appliances, but r... (show quote)


I know bug, I was being a bit hyperbolic. In fact I don't believe that federal regulation has changed, and it may never, once Biden and Kerry are gone and if we don't get a Newsome/Whitmer Administration maybe DC will come back to its senses and hear the voices of the American people.

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Aug 4, 2023 13:23:33   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I know bug, I was being a bit hyperbolic. In fact I don't believe that federal regulation has changed, and it may never, once Biden and Kerry are gone and if we don't get a Newsome/Whitmer Administration maybe DC will come back to its senses and hear the voices of the American people.


Yes we should listen to the america people:

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/18/for-earth-day-key-facts-about-americans-views-of-c*****e-c****e-and-renewable-energy/

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Aug 4, 2023 13:34:43   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
David Martin wrote:
An increase in global temperatures was predicted by scientists after the eruption of the Hunga Tonga–Hunga Haʻapai volcano in January, 2022. The eruption injected massive amounts of ash into the stratosphere and spewed at least 55 million tons of water vapor into the air to altitudes as high as 33 miles. Atmospheric water vapor is known to act like a blanket, trapping heat. So it is no coincidence that there is a prolonged global heatwave this year as the water vapor circulated globally over the past year. So this event, rather than c*****e c****e, likely accounts for the current heat wave. If so, g****l c*****g should occur once the excess water vapor has dissipated as rain, at least back to pre-volcanic eruption temperatures.
An increase in global temperatures was predicted b... (show quote)

Scientists - those who actually know something, as compared to the “common sense” of citizens - say that volcano eruptions actually lead to cooler weather, as the particles and water vapor emitted shade the earth from sunshine {reduce the greenhouse effect}. That is why they were concerned about ‘nuclear winter’ at one time. I’m sure the computers which provide predictions these days include all of these effects.

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