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Jul 30, 2023 08:05:54   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I know this isn't a controversial topic, but I want to give a plug to shooting raw, anyway. I came across some shots from 2016, using a Sony a6000. All the images are arw - Sony raw. I often wondered if the guy who decided on that "arw" extension just mixed up the letters, intending to write "raw."

The pictures were shot in a high contrast situation - dark inside but bright outside. Using Luminar, I was able to process the twenty-five I wanted. The example of before and after below is probably the worst of the bunch, but it turned out being usable.

One thing about looking at pictures of a senior picnic from seven years ago - not all of the people in the pictures are still with us.



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Jul 30, 2023 08:16:33   #
BarbK Loc: Cinnaminson, NJ
 
On a photography workshop we were shooting water fowl and the instructor said to put our white balance in cloudy for a warmer effect. Being short I didn't see the dial correctly and put it in tungsten. If I was shooting in just jpeg every image would be blue! It was easily fixed in adobe raw.

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Jul 30, 2023 08:17:21   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
BarbK wrote:
On a photography workshop we were shooting water fowl and the instructor said to put our white balance in cloudy for a warmer effect. Being short I didn't see the dial correctly and put it in tungsten. If I was shooting in just jpeg every image would be blue! It was easily fixed in adobe raw.



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Jul 30, 2023 08:17:39   #
BarbK Loc: Cinnaminson, NJ
 
On a photography workshop we were shooting water fowl and the instructor said to put our white balance in cloudy for a warmer effect. Being short I didn't see the dial correctly and put it in tungsten. If I was shooting in just jpeg every image would be blue! It was easily fixed in adobe raw.

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Jul 30, 2023 08:33:56   #
Rab-Eye Loc: Indiana
 
BarbK wrote:
On a photography workshop we were shooting water fowl and the instructor said to put our white balance in cloudy for a warmer effect. Being short I didn't see the dial correctly and put it in tungsten. If I was shooting in just jpeg every image would be blue! It was easily fixed in adobe raw.


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Jul 30, 2023 08:34:57   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 


Canon's DPP has "presets" for WB that one can select for RAW, OR select any numeric value in-between.
That's very handy. Tweak it just a bit or a lot.

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Jul 30, 2023 10:13:53   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Longshadow wrote:


Canon's DPP has "presets" for WB that one can select for RAW, OR select any numeric value in-between.
That's very handy. Tweak it just a bit or a lot.


Those presets are basically the same choices used by the JPEG processing engine in Canon cameras. DPP uses all the same color math as the camera's processor, but gives you far wider control range when you start with a raw file.

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Jul 30, 2023 10:15:47   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
BarbK wrote:
On a photography workshop we were shooting water fowl and the instructor said to put our white balance in cloudy for a warmer effect. Being short I didn't see the dial correctly and put it in tungsten. If I was shooting in just jpeg every image would be blue! It was easily fixed in adobe raw.


Exactly In RAW the WB only affects the initial reference display JPG not the actual RAW image file as you saw. Camera JPGs are only great if you make no mistakes.

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Jul 30, 2023 10:33:05   #
bsprague Loc: Lacey, WA, USA
 
Even my little drone from China shoots RAW! We Lightroom Classic junkies have a "Treat JPEG next to RAW as separate image" choice. The drone shoots both but Lightroom keeps the clutter down by keeping the JPEG in the background.

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Jul 30, 2023 10:34:31   #
BebuLamar
 
All digital cameras shoot raw but they may not save the raw files. I guess converting the raw to JPEG is faster than writing the raw file to card.

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Jul 30, 2023 10:52:39   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
bsprague wrote:
Even my little drone from China shoots RAW! We Lightroom Classic junkies have a "Treat JPEG next to RAW as separate image" choice. The drone shoots both but Lightroom keeps the clutter down by keeping the JPEG in the background.


I've often about getting a drone, but I'm afraid I'd lose it, crash it, or get bored with it. Then, of course, there are the restrictions. I'm satisfied shooting from ground level.

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Jul 30, 2023 11:19:09   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
All digital cameras shoot raw but they may not save the raw files. I guess converting the raw to JPEG is faster than writing the raw file to card.


Raw takes additional action to convert to something you can share. The extra effort is negligible (imho) but it annoys some people. Also raw files are larger so in the early days when cards held less data some people preferred the smaller image format.

Today cards are Humongous and computers are faster so neither is a good reason to not shoot raw.

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Jul 30, 2023 11:23:07   #
BebuLamar
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Raw takes additional action to convert to something you can share. The extra effort is negligible (imho) but it annoys some people. Also raw files are larger so in the early days when cards held less data some people preferred the smaller image format.

Today cards are Humongous and computers are faster so neither is a good reason to not shoot raw.


I meant all digital cameras have to capture the raw file first then convert to JPEG. Some cameras (especially the P&S type) only save the JPEG and have no option to save the raw files (although they must capture the raw first). I guess they do that because it takes more time to save the raw file than converting to JPEG then save the JPEG file.

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Jul 30, 2023 11:28:26   #
gwilliams6
 
BebuLamar wrote:
I meant all digital cameras have to capture the raw file first then convert to JPEG. Some cameras (especially the P&S type) only save the JPEG and have no option to save the raw files (although they must capture the raw first). I guess they do that because it takes more time to save the raw file than converting to JPEG then save the JPEG file.


Thanks. I knew what you meant the first time.

Cheers and best to you.

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Jul 30, 2023 11:35:16   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Raw takes additional action to convert to something you can share.


And that's part of the fun!

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